Rockmolder
7 years ago
2018 Free Agency Preview: Green Bay Packers 
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An injury to star quarterback Aaron Rodgers crippled the Green Bay Packers’ 2017-18 season, as backup Brett Hundley simply couldn’t do enough to lead the team to the postseason with Rodgers on the shelf. However, it’s unfair to rest the entirety of Green Bay’s woes this past season on the quarterback position, as Hundley/Rodgers didn’t quite have an award-winning supporting cast on either side of the ball...



Pretty interesting read overall.

Rashaan Melvin played rather well this year, but it does feel like a bit of a gamble to sign a guy who's managed to put one good season together in a 5 year career. Then again, he might just be a late bloomer.
gbguy20
7 years ago
Incredibly short article. Is that really all the cap room we have? Talk about screwed. I was under the impression we were going to have much more than that. Cut cobb.
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yooperfan
7 years ago
I too am shocked by how little cap space we have.
It's a shame that we have so much money tied up in such a rickety roster.
Thompson should have been gone a long time ago.
There's no doubt that they are going to have to dump some salary cap sponges if they're going to improve the roster.
Smokey
7 years ago

I too am shocked by how little cap space we have.
It's a shame that we have so much money tied up in such a rickety roster.
Thompson should have been gone a long time ago.
There's no doubt that they are going to have to dump some salary cap sponges if they're going to improve the roster.

Originally Posted by: yooperfan 



Even with this years cap increase, I find that I must agree. The roster needs a complete reevaluation. Trades/releasing players may be an option, but who should be targeted ?
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isocleas2
7 years ago

I too am shocked by how little cap space we have.
It's a shame that we have so much money tied up in such a rickety roster.
Thompson should have been gone a long time ago.
There's no doubt that they are going to have to dump some salary cap sponges if they're going to improve the roster.

Originally Posted by: yooperfan 



The cap situation isn't that bad none of the contracts have too much dead money so the Packers still have flexibility to do what they want. Also this rickety roster was in the nfc championship 2 years ago and 4-1 before rodgers got injures (despite the oline being decimated).

There are improvements I want as well but some of you ted haters are acting like you havnt seen the playoffs in a decade. Half the teams would kill to swap places with us next year. Learn to appreciate what ya got imo
Smokey
7 years ago

The cap situation isn't that bad none of the contracts have too much dead money so the Packers still have flexibility to do what they want. Also this rickety roster was in the nfc championship 2 years ago and 4-1 before rodgers got injures (despite the oline being decimated).

There are improvements I want as well but some of you ted haters are acting like you havnt seen the playoffs in a decade. Half the teams would kill to swap places with us next year. Learn to appreciate what ya got imo

Originally Posted by: isocleas2 



It's not about not being in the recent playoffs, rather that Rodgers injury shown a spotlight on the rest of the 2017 Packers. It revealed a weak Defense that needs better players rushing and covering opposing teams Air Attacks.

TE and WR personal will also need a reevaluation as well.

A healthy 2018 Packers should make the Playoffs, the challenge is moving beyond the playoffs to a SB.

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Rockmolder
7 years ago

Incredibly short article. Is that really all the cap room we have? Talk about screwed. I was under the impression we were going to have much more than that. Cut cobb.

Originally Posted by: gbguy20 



There's a couple of things of note, though.

They're taking the €4.2 million of dead cap from Bennett into account. As they should. But I'm hoping we'll get an update on getting that bonus for the coming two years back. It's been awfully silent, though.

Like you said, we can cut some guys to create some space. It's going to be interesting to see what Gutekunst does. I feel like it would've been a no-brainer to cut some of these guys if you got a GM coming in from the outside who has no real ties to anyone inside the organization, but you have to wonder if familiarity will make a difference here.

I mean, having nearly $37 million or more than 22% of your cap invested in Nelson, Cobb and Matthews is absurd when you look at it now. They've all been worth is at some point (maybe not Cobb), but you can't possibly build a competitive roster when shelling out that kind of money to guys who've obviously lost a step.

Lastly, I don't think they've accounted for the draft picks we'll need to sign. I know it'll bump some players off the roster, as well, but you have to imagine we'll be paying around $6-7 million if we don't trade up or down a lot.

If you don't cut anyone, I can't imagine we'll do anything in free agency, but hand out near-minimum contracts.

With all the talk about these new QB contracts and Rodgers' current contract being on the low side, I imagine the situation won't improve all that much anytime soon.
isocleas2
7 years ago

It's not about not being in the recent playoffs, rather that Rodgers injury shown a spotlight on the rest of the 2017 Packers. It revealed a weak Defense that needs better players rushing and covering opposing teams Air Attacks.

TE and WR personal will also need a reevaluation as well.

A healthy 2018 Packers should make the Playoffs, the challenge is moving beyond the playoffs to a SB.

Originally Posted by: Smokey 



Vegas still has the packers with the 2nd best odds to represent the NFC in the superbowl, I trust their opinion over virtually everyone else.

Look at who the patriots/eagles are set to lose this offseason, every team has holes they need to fill the Packers are no different. But the Packers are much closer to winning another superbowl than they are to needing a rebuild. I feel like sometimes in the wake of a down year people start losing perspective (hell some lost it before this year).

If they cut/rework some contracts they can fill some holes and draft early and often to fill the others. The future still looks bright in Green Bay 😁
Smokey
7 years ago
Looking at the 2017 Packers, it is obvious that without Aaron Rodgers they were not a playoff quality team. Furthermore, it showed that the teams weak links were being compensated for by one (brilliant) player. As a result Management and Coaching changes have been undertaken to correct those weak links (mainly on the Defense).

Free Agency, the draft, and trades are the main tools that GM's use to build teams. GB needed to change it's leadership if it expected to not repeat it's past. What the new regime will do remains to be seen and I will be watching.

😎

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7 years ago

Vegas still has the packers with the 2nd best odds to represent the NFC in the superbowl, I trust their opinion over virtually everyone else.

Look at who the patriots/eagles are set to lose this offseason, every team has holes they need to fill the Packers are no different. But the Packers are much closer to winning another superbowl than they are to needing a rebuild. I feel like sometimes in the wake of a down year people start losing perspective (hell some lost it before this year).

If they cut/rework some contracts they can fill some holes and draft early and often to fill the others. The future still looks bright in Green Bay 😁

Originally Posted by: isocleas2 



I don't dispute most of what you are saying but using Vegas as a source is as bad as saying a player is very good because he made the Pro Bowl. Vegas doesn't care a bit about the talent on a team. All they want is half the suckers betting for and half the suckers betting against a team so none of the money comes out of their pocket. It's a popularity vote the same as the Pro Bowl is. Granted a 0-16 team is going to have longer odds of winning the SB just like a guy who blows out his ACL ain't going to the PB.
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