yooperfan
7 years ago

I like Courtland Sutton from SMU. These are a good crop of receivers.

Originally Posted by: DarkaneRules 


I'm thinking we can get a pretty darn good receiver in rounds 2 or 3.
I'd much rather see a defensive difference maker in round 1.
TheKanataThrilla
7 years ago

I'm thinking we can get a pretty darn good receiver in rounds 2 or 3.

Originally Posted by: yooperfan 



Jake Wieneke. This year's Cooper Kupp. Big stats from a small school. He is slowly climbing up draft boards.
isocleas2
7 years ago
If the Packers feel he can rush the edge he's a steal, play him in jake Ryan's place on 1st down then move him outside on passing downs. If he only projects as an ILB he's not nearly as tempting.
sschind
7 years ago

I know we've all got out eyes on pass rushers but how angry would you be if we got an offensive lineman or gamechanging offensive playmaker. I want to protect the franchise QB and give him someone who can get separation and break the game open.

Originally Posted by: DarkaneRules 



I do think an impact pass rusher is our most important need and I know it sounds like a cop out but I honestly just hope we get an impact player at 14. If its a pass rusher great because we certainly need it but we need help elsewhere as well. We have to address the WR situation going forward. Maybe not for this season if Nelson and Cobb return but certainly in the near future. If one of the stud WRs is there I wouldn't mind taking him. If a big guy is there on the OL I wouldn't mind that either.

I hate saying "take the best player available" because at any given point in the draft there may be as many as half a dozen "best players" but at 14 I don't think I'd be to keen on taking a player who needs a year or 2 to develop. A year or 2 to hone his skills and get better sure but you should be able to get someone who can make an impact right away and that's what I want at almost any position. We have very few positions on this team that wouldn't benefit from an upgrade at the starting spot.
Smokey
7 years ago
Some are picking GB to draft UTSA's DE Marcus Davenport. The 6'6" Davenport has height (and reach) but at 225 lbs. is a bit on the light side. He would be a project for the strength and conditioning coaches.

I still prefer LSU's Arden Key as GB's best Edge Rusher option at the 14th pick. IMO, he will be a catch in this draft, and I'd like to see GB get him.


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isocleas2
7 years ago

Some are picking GB to draft UTSA's DE Marcus Davenport. The 6'6" Davenport has height (and reach) but at 225 lbs. is a bit on the light side. He would be a project for the strength and conditioning coaches.

I still prefer LSU's Arden Key as GB's best Edge Rusher option at the 14th pick. IMO, he will be a catch in this draft, and I'd like to see GB get him.

Originally Posted by: Smokey 



Arguably no one has more to gain/lose at the combine than Arden Key. If he aces his interviews and teams think his leave from LSU was justified he could be a top 15 pick. If he's labeled a character risk most teams won't even consider him until day 2.

I like Davenport better at this point but if Key falls to the 2nd or 3rd he'll be an exciting gamble for some team.

Smokey
7 years ago

Arguably no one has more to gain/lose at the combine than Arden Key. If he aces his interviews and teams think his leave from LSU was justified he could be a top 15 pick. If he's labeled a character risk most teams won't even consider him until day 2.

I like Davenport better at this point but if Key falls to the 2nd or 3rd he'll be an exciting gamble for some team.

Originally Posted by: isocleas2 



Yes Davenport or Edwards are fine football players and GB would benefit from either of their services, but I believe that Key has yet to reach his full potential yet. With professional coaching and weight training, Key will be a "MONSTER EDGE RUSHER" that GB urgently needs.

The Packers may not pick Key, but they must IMO, acquire this key position player above all else first. Without a "REAL" Edge Rusher, GB will most likely be a 10 - 6 team in 2016 instead of being a 13 - 3 team.

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warhawk
7 years ago

Yes Davenport or Edwards are fine football players and GB would benefit from either of their services, but I believe that Key has yet to reach his full potential yet. With professional coaching and weight training, Key will be a "MONSTER EDGE RUSHER" that GB urgently needs.

The Packers may not pick Key, but they must IMO, acquire this key position player above all else first. Without a "REAL" Edge Rusher, GB will most likely be a 10 - 6 team in 2016 instead of being a 13 - 3 team.

Originally Posted by: Smokey 



Laying down those kind of expectations on a rookie is a little unrealistic. Especially, if in fact, he needs to hit the weight room and certainly get the coaching to polish his technique.

There's not much sense in pigeon holing a player or position in the draft before some of these veteran contracts are hashed out and free agency happens. That's not just for the Packers but for all teams in that their "needs" may very well change by the time the draft roles around. Somebody is going to sign Cousins and a few other top FA's will be gobbled up and that is going to create adjustments to the draft board.

The Packers have an opportunity to possibly get a top 10 player depending on how the draft falls and if there is that player there you take him. If, for example, Calvin Ridley was available how can you not take him? He's a perfect fit for Arod and he and Adam's on the outside would almost be unfair.

Put it this way. If a player like Ridley were available and they took Key instead I would not be thrilled.


"The train is leaving the station."
sschind
7 years ago
Smokey says it has to be an edge rusher and he has to be a monster. Like I said before and Warhawk just said, I'd hate for the Packers to lock themselves onto one position to the extent of ignoring whoever may be available at other positions. If that monster edge rusher is there then of course you take him but to commit to the position regardless of the player just because it may be your greatest need runs the risk of losing out on a much better player at some other position that is also a position of need.

I really do hope that the Packers get the player Smokey wants at #14 (that being a monster edge rusher and not any 1 player specifically,) simply because I agree it may be their biggest need. On the other hand if a top 10 talent at another position drops I'm not going to cry if they choose him over a lesser talented edge rusher.
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