Eagles, Vikings show Packers how they could've won without Aaron Rodgers

wpr
Preferred Member Topic Starter

6 years ago

The Eagles' and Vikings' blueprint to win without their starting QBs included better backups and more money invested in defense than the Packers had.

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Even a great QB needs a solid defense. Mediocre QBs need great defenses.

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nerdmann
Premier Member

6 years ago

Our defense did shit itself mightily, but Hundley played well enough to go .500. You can’t have 13 drops two weeks in a row and expect to win. Even with Aaron Rodgers.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

6 years ago

Our defense did shit itself mightily, but Hundley played well enough to go .500. You can’t have 13 drops two weeks in a row and expect to win. Even with Aaron Rodgers.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

Didn't the Packers get two turn overs pretty early on and Brett Hundley screwed up both opportunities to get a lead and ground and pound? That game we should have won. Hundley also threw away the Ravens game.

Cheesey
Preferred Member

6 years ago

Some teams have won the super bowl with very average QB's. You NEED a excellent defense. We had one in 2010.
We SHOULD have gone all the way in 2014.
If our D and new coordinator can turn us into at LEAST a decent D, we might have a chance.

TheKanataThrilla
Veteran Member

6 years ago

It is hard to win when most of your top paid talent is either injured or not living up to what they are being paid.

wpr
Preferred Member Topic Starter

6 years ago

Our defense did shit itself mightily, but Hundley played well enough to go .500. You can’t have 13 drops two weeks in a row and expect to win. Even with Aaron Rodgers.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

AND THERE IT IS!

I have been waiting for you to say it wasn't Hundley's fault. You didn't disappoint.

Cheesey
Preferred Member

6 years ago

Defense AND offense under produced.
Had Aaron Rodgers stayed healthy, we would have made the playoffs, and would have at most won one playoff game.
I'm glad now what happened did happen. It caused the major changes too happen. Otherwise nothing would have changed.
Maybe we will have a chance now, before Rodgers' career ends.

nerdmann
Premier Member

6 years ago

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

Be that as it may.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

nerdmann
Premier Member

6 years ago

AND THERE IT IS!

I have been waiting for you to say it wasn't Hundley's fault. You didn't disappoint.

Originally Posted by: wpr

.500.

I mean let's face it, that Pittsburgh game was just a damn lightning bolt. Ben does that to alot of teams. I mean, Hundley is what he is. He needs to work in his accuracy mid to deep, and he needs to anticipate better. Know the routes, know the WRs, throw them open by leading them with the ball. Know when the dude is gonna make his move to separate. Put the ball on the dime.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

nerdmann
Premier Member

6 years ago

#10

Originally Posted by: Cheesey

What needs to happen is:

1: The training staff needs more emphasis on functional strength, so that we can keep guys on the field. Perry needs to adjust his diet, so he doesn't keep breaking the small bones in his hands.

2: Our star QB needs to stop holding the team's cap hostage so we can afford to field a great defense. I mean our D has much better players than the sum of them have produced under Dom, but you can't have it both ways.

I don't want to hear anymore bullshit about how the franchise is "wasting" Aaron's career, when dude is accounting for $20+ per. And btw, he wants to redo that to get more.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

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