Pack93z
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16 years ago
Call this a vent.. call this whatever.. but it struck me odd and actually pissed me off.

We all know about the Favre saga, the poor communication, and the divorce.

Now watching this Cutler thing unfold, with the phone tag back and forth, finally a face to face meeting and same results.. both sides coming out with opposing stories.. it seems so familiar.

How can it be, the seemingly reflective mess with two different franchises?

To me, it is pretty clear that last years events and this years face off in Denver have a very common thread, Bus Cook.

Why would he do this?

Simple.. if Bus gets his clients new deals, he gets a cut of that signing bonus and new deal figures.

Last year, if the Packers caved and let Brett walk, Bus would get a new mainlined IV'ed source of cash with a new signing bonus and contract.. in the end, we simply traded Favre so it kind of backfired.

However, this year, if Cutler gets dealt, he is surely going to get a new deal from a new team as part of the deal.

So while Bus might not be starting these issues, I certainly can see him helping push the issue along and create more trouble between the franchise and his client. He has self motivated reasons to do so..

I know it is maybe playing a little conspiracy theory here.. but the constant story of poor communication is just to blatant to ignore, IMO.

Some will say, when the Packers offered Brett his "Golden Parachute" of a marketing deal, how come Bus didn't stop and grab his coin. Honestly, I think that is what the whole meeting in Mississippi last season was all about with Murphy.. Bus trying to reverse the process and get Brett to accept. But the fire of emotion in Brett was too hot for that to happen at that point, and Cook spun the meeting as a buyout for the media.. adding more pressure to the saga..

Can me crazy.. call me Jerry Fletcher.. but I smell a rat in both of these issues.. and that rat is Bus Cook.

Bus Cook.. your no longer welcome at my supper table. :lol:
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longtimefan
16 years ago
I dont think that is an issue at allto be honest from all the convos I have had with people close to that and what those people have said...

I do not believe Bus is just looking to get money


He might push the guys to believe they are much better and much more deserving of better treatment, but not just after the $
ILikeThePackers39
16 years ago
It took you this long to figure that out?

Kidding, kidding.

FWIW, I agree - now, it's certainly the agent's job to get as much as he can for his client, but Cook always seems to be angling for his own payday more than anything else.

I seem to recall, even, that Florio suggested that the whole Favre un-retirement was as much about Bus wanting one more big payday as it was about anything else.

As for Cutler, I don't know, though... you can't ever just go by what you're getting in the press, but I do wonder if the powers that be in Denver haven't been screwing him around a bit. If it turns out that the coach came in telling him "I came here just so I could coach you" and then they turned around and tried to trade him for Cassell, I think I'd be a bit pissed myself.
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Pack93z
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16 years ago
I am more focused on the confusion and poor communication than anything else..

Just like last year, if a face to face meeting of "adults" was held, the issue probably wouldn't have grown and been spun to what it is today.

Take this Saturday's meeting with Cutler and McDaniels.. the coach wanted just the two of them to sit and converse, deal with it and move on. Cook had to be part.. so the GM Zander was brought in as well.

Meeting adjourned, two completely different stories come it out of it.. complete lack of communication.

Sound familiar?

Common thread... Cook..

And about the Contract...

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/03/16/source-cook-wants-new-contract-for-cutler/ 

Cook is seeking a new deal.. hmmm imagine that eh. 😉
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zombieslayer
16 years ago
Some agents are pure evil. For example - D**w R*s**h**s.

Maybe Bus Cook is as well. I haven't thought of that, but now you got me thinking...
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Pack93z
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16 years ago
Reading around today.. seems Silverstein thinks it related to...

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/41281247.html 

God.. I think like a JSonline staffer.. 'ponders the meaning of life with that thought'.. lol.
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
Rockmolder
16 years ago

Reading around today.. seems Silverstein thinks it related to...

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/41281247.html 

God.. I think like a JSonline staffer.. 'ponders the meaning of life with that thought'.. lol.

"pack93z" wrote:



Cutler doesn't attend Monday's meeting, reportedly asks to be traded



http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d80f45763&template=without-video-with-comments&confirm=true 

It all does look very familiar, indeed.

It does look like he has a hand in this. The thing that's most obvious here is that Cook seems to let his players think that they're essential to the team and have more rights or so. Maybe they have to a certain extent, but no one is bigger than a team.
Zero2Cool
16 years ago
Cutler just booked a time slot with Greta.
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16 years ago
Of course agents only care about the money. I don't trust a single thing orchestrated by Bus Cook with Favre, and Denver fans shouldn't trust a single thing orchestrated by Bus in regards to Cutler. Their only purpose in life is to make money for their clients so that they in turn get a cut. That's IT.
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Zero2Cool
16 years ago
Biggest issue with Favre and Packers, miscommunication.
Cutler and Bronco's, miscommunication.

Both are QB's
Both have Bus Cook.
Both are white.
Both have single digit numbers that are even.


jk lol ... I blame Cook. Heard on the radio that Bus is a helluva a smooth talker and could sell an electric powered car to an Amish man with no license.
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