yooperfan
7 years ago

Not if you agree on a new long term contract first 😉
Yeah, that's not gonna happen, but I was just thinking outside the box.

But it would be nice. Though if you make a serious offer right now, Adam's camp might be interested especially if Adams isn't cleared right away.

Originally Posted by: beast 


But what if this turns into another Shields situation, would we be on the hook for 10 million a year or is there a way around that taking into consideration the CBA?
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7 years ago

What more do you think Adams is going to prove over those last two games? Why risk injury and payday? As an agent, your client has proven beyond a reasonable doubt what he can do and how valuable he is. Why put him at risk for 120 minutes of play when he could tear an ACL and then what?

I think your "if im agent" talk is not well thought out my friend, lol.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



What more do I think Adams is going to prove?

Well if he's full healthy, that he can get 1,000 yards in a season... he's not yet been able to do it (3 yards off last year) and he's 115 yards off now (with two games to go). Also need to mention that he's done that with being knocked out of two games and having to work with Hundley.

But what if this turns into another Shields situation, would we be on the hook for 10 million a year or is there a way around that taking into consideration the CBA?

Originally Posted by: yooperfan 


1) I said it wasn't going to happen
2) You could always put the money in roster bonus, where if said player isn't on the roster (or maybe not on the active roster) than they don't get that money...

Of course, getting the agent and player to agree to #2 is a completely different story and could be impossible.... but the resign him thought, was based on the theory he's 100% fine, and Packers are just sitting him to make sure he fully heals up.
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Zero2Cool
7 years ago

What more do I think Adams is going to prove?

Well if he's full healthy, that he can get 1,000 yards in a season... he's not yet been able to do it (3 yards off last year) and he's 115 yards off now (with two games to go). Also need to mention that he's done that with being knocked out of two games and having to work with Hundley.

Originally Posted by: beast 



And getting 1,000 yards a season is going to do what good for him exactly? What does this bring to the table in negations that his yards per game wouldn't do just the same?

1,000 yards proves nothing that the Packers and the NFL don't already know. Do you think the General Managers have a filter for 1,000 yard receiving or something?

Davante has NOTHING to prove and NOTHING to gain over the next two games. The Packers and NFL already know what Davante brings to an offense.

Packers would be wise to sit him and play Trevor Davis and Jeff Janis more to see what we have with them. Treat these last two games like pre-season games. Get game time experience.
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7 years ago

And getting 1,000 yards a season is going to do what good for him exactly? What does this bring to the table in negations that his yards per game wouldn't do just the same?

1,000 yards proves nothing that the Packers and the NFL don't already know. Do you think the General Managers have a filter for 1,000 yard receiving or something?

Davante has NOTHING to prove and NOTHING to gain over the next two games. The Packers and NFL already know what Davante brings to an offense.

Packers would be wise to sit him and play Trevor Davis and Jeff Janis more to see what we have with them. Treat these last two games like pre-season games. Get game time experience.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Your point is complex and looking for the meaning of this and that... my point is simply, he has not yet done it (yet)... it would be great for him to do it. Not necessary for a contract, but just to freaking do it and cross another thing off the list.

Sorta like climbing a larger mountain, just so say you've been there. That is if he's healthy enough to do it.

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greengold
7 years ago

And getting 1,000 yards a season is going to do what good for him exactly? What does this bring to the table in negations that his yards per game wouldn't do just the same?

1,000 yards proves nothing that the Packers and the NFL don't already know. Do you think the General Managers have a filter for 1,000 yard receiving or something?

Davante has NOTHING to prove and NOTHING to gain over the next two games. The Packers and NFL already know what Davante brings to an offense.

Packers would be wise to sit him and play Trevor Davis and Jeff Janis more to see what we have with them. Treat these last two games like pre-season games. Get game time experience.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



You sound like that genius who was claiming the Packers could have signed Randall Cobb while he was on IR for half price before the final year of his rookie deal. I'm pretty sure it doesn't work that way in the real world but whatever.
Zero2Cool
7 years ago

Your point is complex and looking for the meaning of this and that... my point is simply, he has not yet done it (yet)... it would be great for him to do it. Not necessary for a contract, but just to freaking do it and cross another thing off the list.

Sorta like climbing a larger mountain, just so say you've been there. That is if he's healthy enough to do it.

Originally Posted by: beast 



As his agent, why do you care? Why does it matter? What matters is your clients health. Adams has proven himself. There is nothing he can do in the last two games that will improve his free agent offers, but he could get hurt. Simple decision, you sit your booty down and get your brain right.
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Zero2Cool
7 years ago

You sound like that genius who was claiming the Packers could have signed Randall Cobb while he was on IR for half price before the final year of his rookie deal. I'm pretty sure it doesn't work that way in the real world but whatever.

Originally Posted by: greengold 



You sound like someone who knows they are less than right and doesn't have anything else to say but some rambling about "someone else" (btw, that was probably you about that IR thing).

Adams has nothing to gain by playing final two games, but has a lot to lose. What is so hard to understand about this? Why cannot you not grasp this concept? Do you think an ACL helps his contract offers?

Yeah, lets talk about the REAL WORLD because injuries happen in ... THE REAL WORLD.
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7 years ago

As his agent, why do you care? Why does it matter? What matters is your clients health. Adams has proven himself. There is nothing he can do in the last two games that will improve his free agent offers, but he could get hurt. Simple decision, you sit your booty down and get your brain right.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Unless one of us has been in a NFL decision room, that how do we know what does and does NOT matter to the actual decision makers? Weather Adams finishes the season proven that he's still healthy, of if he finishes it injured on the IR after two concussion in a single season, might matter.

Packers would be wise to sit him and play Trevor Davis and Jeff Janis more to see what we have with them. Treat these last two games like pre-season games. Get game time experience.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I completely agree with Davis... as for Janis, I'm not sure... after all I would hate for him to make two plays and then some team thinks, oh, he can be a stud at STs and an average speed WR too and raise his price tag a lot... when I think they're hoping to get him back as a ST only guy price.

But Davis, Allison and maybe Clark (if you think Clark will surely make it next year, maybe not, if you think you might be trying to slip Clark onto the PS next year).
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Zero2Cool
7 years ago

Unless one of us has been in a NFL decision room, that how do we know what does and does NOT matter to the actual decision makers? Weather Adams finishes the season proven that he's still healthy, of if he finishes it injured on the IR after two concussion in a single season, might matter.

Originally Posted by: beast 



Fuck you and your bitch ass cop out responses. I can have an opinion without being in a decision room in the NFL.
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7 years ago

Fuck you and your bitch ass cop out responses. I can have an opinion without being in a decision room in the NFL.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Mmm, talk about being nice to people...

You have your opinion (and I'm never said it was wrong)... but I also have my opinion and you're saying my opinion is completely wrong, because teams don't weight those factors... but how do we know the teams don't weight those factors?

You're simply making a claim that is not easily provable. You're claim could be 100% correct... but I have never heard any official speak on the subject, so I don't want to discount other possibilities.
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