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7 years ago

Apart from a couple boneheaded timeouts in the game and not kicking the FG in the third quarter, I honestly think it was a pretty good game for McCarthy. So used to seeing the Packers offense have very consistent success with a couple different types of plays in a game, and then him inexplicably changing what's working, the offense stalling out for 2-3 series, before finally going back to what was working/not being able to because we're behind multiple scores and have no time.

For the most part, we stuck with the dink and dunk which the Browns inexplicably didn't seem to try hard to take away. I credit McCarthy with that, and obviously Hundley as well for executing it.

Originally Posted by: Porforis 



I was a bit surprised he didn't go for it on 4th and 2 from the 45 with 5:28 to go.

Not to criticize Hundley but the soft defense sure helped pad his stats.
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7 years ago

I was a bit surprised he didn't go for it on 4th and 2 from the 45 with 5:28 to go.

Not to criticize Hundley but the soft defense sure helped pad his stats.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



Yup. He overperformed this game, but that's not his fault. The Browns kept giving us the short stuff and we kept taking them. Why teams wouldn't play with safeties up all game and daring us to throw deep on 1 on 1 coverage is beyond me - Hundley's accuracy more than 15 yards downfield has been atrocious.
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7 years ago
Rourke I am stealing part of one of your posts from the McCarthy thread and dragging it over here into one of the many Hundley threads.



Any GM desperate enough to give Brett Hundley a big payday is probably on his way out the door. Then again, with as many season-ending injuries as we've seen this year, you never know what could happen.

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel 



For a couple of years I have contended that no GM is going to trade for Brett. Certainly not give up a high draft pick for him. Since there is 1 year left on his contract maybe it is a little early to talk about what happens in 2019.

Let's say there is no team willing to make a trade for him after this season is over. Brett plays out the his rookie contract and becomes an UFA.

Does some team give him medium bucks to be their backup QB?
Bigger bucks to be their starting QB?
Does GB make him a modest offer to be their Current version of the perennial backup such as Doug Pederson?

Even though I have been unhappy with his performance over the first three years, I wouldn't object if he is the backup for another 3 years.

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7 years ago

Rourke I am stealing part of one of your posts from the McCarthy thread and dragging it over here into one of the many Hundley threads.



For a couple of years I have contended that no GM is going to trade for Brett. Certainly not give up a high draft pick for him. Since there is 1 year left on his contract maybe it is a little early to talk about what happens in 2019.

Let's say there is no team willing to make a trade for him after this season is over. Brett plays out the his rookie contract and becomes an UFA.

Does some team give him medium bucks to be their backup QB?
Bigger bucks to be their starting QB?
Does GB make him a modest offer to be their Current version of the perennial backup such as Doug Pederson?

Even though I have been unhappy with his performance over the first three years, I wouldn't object if he is the backup for another 3 years.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



Doug Pederson knew he was a career backup. Brett Hundley thinks he's a starter. Hundley will not be given a second contract by the Packers. He'll go to a team like Giants or Jets or Broncos with the hopes of starting.
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7 years ago

Doug Pederson knew he was a career backup. Brett Hundley thinks he's a starter. Hundley will not be given a second contract by the Packers. He'll go to a team like Giants or Jets or Broncos with the hopes of starting.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



When Pederson was young he thought he could be a starter too. He left to play for the hapless Eagles and Brownies before returning to GB. It wasn't until then that he resigned himself to being a backup on a good team.
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nerdmann
7 years ago

Yup. He overperformed this game, but that's not his fault. The Browns kept giving us the short stuff and we kept taking them. Why teams wouldn't play with safeties up all game and daring us to throw deep on 1 on 1 coverage is beyond me - Hundley's accuracy more than 15 yards downfield has been atrocious.

Originally Posted by: Porforis 



Williams was blitzing Hundley and didnt want to get burned deep. That’s why they were giving a cushion.

Btw, Hundley’s rating against the blitz was 114.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
Porforis
7 years ago

Williams was blitzing Hundley and didnt want to get burned deep. That’s why they were giving a cushion.

Btw, Hundley’s rating against the blitz was 114.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



I don't know why he was so afraid of being burned deep. Again, because his accuracy stinks. And what's worse, giving up 10 5 yard passes or one 30 yard pass?
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7 years ago

Yup. He overperformed this game, but that's not his fault. The Browns kept giving us the short stuff and we kept taking them. Why teams wouldn't play with safeties up all game and daring us to throw deep on 1 on 1 coverage is beyond me - Hundley's accuracy more than 15 yards downfield has been atrocious.

Originally Posted by: Porforis 



I agree, Browns went very conservative coverage with their defense, this let Hundley be a bit more aggressive which got him in rhythm and the team going. Browns lost because of their defensive play caller changing his play calling approach in the last couple of drives, and their QB making one huge boneheaded play...

Which in all honesty, the bonehead play might not of been so bad, if Clay Matthews wasn't right there to hit his arm... as the QB seemed to be throwing the ball deep, but Matthews hit his throwing arm and the ball didn't go deep. But if the ball went deep, it probably wouldn't of been intercepted as it probably would of went over everyone's head OR around his deep target, who just juked his DB off... and was semi open.





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nerdmann
7 years ago

I don't know why he was so afraid of being burned deep. Again, because his accuracy stinks. And what's worse, giving up 10 5 yard passes or one 30 yard pass?

Originally Posted by: Porforis 



The theory is that, if you force a team to run 10 plays before they score, sooner or later they will make a mistake. Dom does (or attempts to do) something similar.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
beast
7 years ago

This might be going too far, but right now, Hundley seems a lot like Tim Tebow...

They suck until out of options and then good/great things somehow happen out of nowhere late.
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