Wrong: Amazed by Jamaal Williams

uffda udfa
Veteran Member Topic Starter

7 years ago

I may have been wrong on Williams. Hard to believe he's doing so well especially given how awful our passing game has been. Tampa is dreadful on D but knowing we can't throw it downfield makes what he's doing incredible.

Would like to see what Williams can accomplish with 12 back in the saddle.

At the very least, it's not another gaping hole going into 2018. We did a nice job finding talent in the middle of the draft. Can't get over what Kamara would've done for us but we have the great Montravius Adams so it's a wash. :)

Curious to see what happens now that Jones went one for the game winner. What's the split?

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

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beast
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7 years ago

Would like to see what Williams can accomplish with 12 back in the saddle.

At the very least, it's not another gaping hole going into 2018. We did a nice job finding talent in the middle of the draft. Can't get over what Kamara would've done for us but we have the great Montravius Adams so it's a wash. :)

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

I was almost swearing the Packers were going to take Kamara with their 2nd round pick, but they took Josh Jones and 6 picks later Kamara got picked up... so it would be between the two of them. And surprising to some, Josh Jones is among the Packers top 6 in snap count so far this season. So they'd probably be worse without him.

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gbguy20
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7 years ago

What were his stats? What did he do that was so impressive?

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beast
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7 years ago

What were his stats? What did he do that was so impressive?

Originally Posted by: gbguy20

He gained over 44.5% of the Packers entire offense yardage, and playing well lately especially considering the lack of passing game and OL blocking hasn't been the greatest either. The guy is moving the ball and the chains.

nerdmann
Premier Member

7 years ago

I still think Aaron Jones is even better. I suspect Mays can play too.

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Mucky Tundra
Honored Member

7 years ago

Originally Posted by: beast

Another thing is he always seems to be falling forward/moving forward/pushing the pile.

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beast
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7 years ago

I suspect Mays can play too.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

Maybe if he could hold onto the ball!

But based on his college tape, I think once Mays get comfortable he can make some stuff happen as well, at least if he gets room to get started... in his college tapes it looked like when he had room to get his speed up he could have both speed and power, but if he didn't have room to get his speed up, he had neither speed nor power... but first needs to hold onto the ball.

Also with the way Williams and Jones are playing, Mays might not get another chance this year, until they blow someone out and have some mop up duty (and probably not even then).

Barfarn
Senior Member

7 years ago

Yeah this Williams looks a LOT different than the Williams we saw early in the year. Anyone hear what has changed?... I've heard the rumor he was playing hurt earlier in the year but I haven't seen that confirmed anywhere. Maybe just got more comfortable in the system is also a possibility.

I was almost swearing the Packers were going to take Kamara with their 2nd round pick, but they took Josh Jones and 6 picks later Kamara got picked up... so it would be between the two of them. And surprising to some, Josh Jones is among the Packers top 6 in snap count so far this season. So they'd probably be worse without him.

Originally Posted by: beast

Dont think it was injury because he ran hard and was quick to the hole. Problem was, he was running to where the whole was supposed to be instead of where it ended up being.

This usually means he was thinking too much. Now he's playing faster.

And w/ RBs like Franklin, Jones and Williams, plus the later round/UDFA good RBs on other teams I would not draft a RB before late 4 unless I got at least a full rounds of value, preferably 2.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

7 years ago

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

Now this is the John I like! We need this John more often! (don't lose the other John though, there's value there too).

The way the rookie RB's are running it makes me wonder if our running OL blocking is better than I gave credit for.

sschind
Senior Member

7 years ago

#10

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

Well, he did leave shades of the other John in there as well with the Kamara shot.

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