nerdmann
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7 years ago
This was a watershed for Dom. It's tied in the 4th, but this has been a shit show.
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buckeyepackfan
7 years ago

This was a watershed for Dom. It's tied in the 4th, but this has been a shit show.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Really,
Offense could have gave them a little more rest with a few less 3 and outs.

GAVE up 20, scored 6!

5 or 6 sacks.

Just need a little more balance !


Now is not the time to talk that shit!I

Now somebody cue The Bee Gees!
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nerdmann
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7 years ago

Really,
Offense could have gave them a little more rest with a few less 3 and outs.

GAVE up 20, scored 6!

5 or 6 sacks.

Just need a little more balance !

Now is not the time to talk that shit!

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 



Third and long is always a sure thing... for the opposing offense.
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7 years ago

Really,
Offense could have gave them a little more rest with a few less 3 and outs.

GAVE up 20, scored 6!

5 or 6 sacks.

Just need a little more balance !


Now is not the time to talk that shit!I

Now somebody cue The Bee Gees!

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 



Yeah what was there 3 straight 3 and outs? ... where MM refused to run the ball?

That really hurt the defense as it was keeping the Bucs on the field.

The defense biggest problem was the Packers offense staying off the field and them trying to tackle and failing...
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buckeyepackfan
7 years ago
One more week!
Just get to 7-6

Then all bets are off!


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steveishere
7 years ago

Yeah what was there 3 straight 3 and outs? ... where Mike McCarthy refused to run the ball?

That really hurt the defense as it was keeping the Bucs on the field.

The defense biggest problem was the Packers offense staying off the field and them trying to tackle and failing...

Originally Posted by: beast 



Eh, in the 3rd quarter the offense started with a 3 and out straight out of the half which didn't really hurt the defense because they hadn't been on the field since before the halftime break. Then the D gave up a 6 minute drive before the offense had one 3 and out then the defense gave up another 6 minute drive. That's 12 minutes TOP given up in 2 possessions, you can't blame the offense for that. The defense simply don't do a good enough job getting off the field regardless of what the offense does, they really don't deserve excuses.
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7 years ago
Cleveland looks good vs. SD. I'm watching Gordon's return. 46 yards and overthrown on a route a good QB hits for a TD.

Kizer can run.

Excited for Aaron to return with a chance but know it's irrelevant with this defense. A game the Packers should've lost, today. D is so sickening to watch year after year.

While Buck cranks Stayin' Alive, I'll crank up Back to Life, Back to Reality in any game that matters vs. a SB type team.
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bboystyle
7 years ago

Cleveland looks good vs. SD. I'm watching Gordon's return. 46 yards and overthrown on a route a good QB hits for a TD.

Kizer can run.

Excited for Aaron to return with a chance but know it's irrelevant with this defense. A game the Packers should've lost, today. D is so sickening to watch year after year.

While Buck cranks Stayin' Alive, I'll crank up Back to Life, Back to Reality in any game that matters vs. a SB type team.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



While the D is sickening to watch, our offense ran by Hundley and MM is far worse.

we do have a nice running duo atm though.
yooperfan
7 years ago

While the D is sickening to watch, our offense ran by Hundley and Mike McCarthy is far worse.

we do have a nice running duo atm though.

Originally Posted by: bboystyle 


Fact, we do have a nice couple of running backs.

rabidgopher04
7 years ago
I don't think Capers goes unless McCarthy goes. Those two guys seem to be tied at the hip.
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7 years ago
The Tampa offense is bottom third and still got 400 yards with two banged up offensive linemen. The boys are inept and ill-prepared for wide receiver screens (and other screens for that matter.)
The fish rots from the head down, and while I think MM has done a passable job with the offense (although the 3rd and one wide receiver screen was a crappy call) he owns DC. If you arent part of the solution, you are part of the problem....
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Zero2Cool
7 years ago
The defense does really well and then the offense puts them back on the field. You can't make adjustments when you're right back onto the field after your offense goes three an out three times in a row. The defense can do better, but they need the offense to at least sustain drives. There are not many defenses out there that can dominate with what this offense is doing.

I'm not advocating we should keep Dom Capers, I wouldn't be upset if he were let go and his entire defensive staff.

It's just not hard to understand that if your offense goes three and out or can't even stay on the field for more than 90 seconds that your defense is going to suffer. You don't get your stamina back and adjustments made if you're thrown right back onto the field.


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7 years ago
Teams are going to throw the WR bubble screens and HB screens until our guys figure out a way to stop it. Winston must have thrown several passes that never went beyond the LOS that gained well over 100 yards.
The wr bubble to our defenses right side is awful and the HB screen to our left has probably averaged 25 yards every time a team throws it.
What should be a low risk, low reward play is not turning out that way. All teams have these plays in their playbook. If the defense makes stops they will quit calling it but if not they will just keep going to it like yesterday.
Like I say we are going to keep seeing these bubble screens until our DB's start getting off blocks and stuffing them. It's aggravating to see a simple pitch and catch result in a positive gain that often. I'm not sure this is even a coaching issue and belongs in this thread but it needs to get better.
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PackFanWithTwins
7 years ago
wish people would make up their minds. One breath the talent on defense sucks because Ted can't draft. Well if the talent sucks, is there anything Dom can really do?
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7 years ago
At least they put some pressure on the QB yesterday. That was nice to FINALLY see.
Heck, we WON in overtime, and that was what counts!
With our QB situation right now, that makes me happy.
And MM had some great play calls in the overtime! Don't forget that!
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7 years ago

wish people would make up their minds. One breath the talent on defense sucks because Ted can't draft. Well if the talent sucks, is there anything Dom can really do?

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 



What would be great is Dom Capers gets a Head Coach job (or whatever, he's gone) somewhere else and his replacement gets the Packers in top 5 in yards and points. I would like to read the comments about that. Of course, they'd probably just bark "I told you Dom was the problem" and completely omit the "no players on defense" mantra.
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buckeyepackfan
7 years ago
I guess wins really don't matter

The defense gives up 20 points, over half of the defenses in the league gave up 20 or more points yesterday.

The defense had 7 sacks, more than any other team in the league yesterday.

The defense scored 6 points.
Not many defenses scored 6 yesterday.

Oh but the defense gave up over 400yds.

Well that looks bad until you realize they were on the field for almost 40 minutes.
BTW who gives a fuck how many yards the defense gives up?
IT'S THE DAMN POINTS THAT COUNT!

Can't This bullshit about Dom and Mike and Ted need to go wait till after the season?

They aren't going anywhere until then.

Jesus you want to bitch about things you have no control over, go to FB click on ANY article about The Packers and join in with The 1000's haters who will gladly join you in bashing The Packers!

Sorry about the rant, but this forum is better than that!




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uffda udfa
7 years ago
A forum must provide context for integrity. Why did we have those sacks? 2 OL out for Tampa a factor? Jameis back after multi game absence after having a poor season before that a factor? Doug Martin out and Desean hurting a factor?

Hundley with 54 passing yards a winning performance? D giving up over 400 to a sputtering O say anything?

Context...context... context.

If we beat Cleveland, and have 10 sacks is our D SB worthy all of a sudden? Context. It would be the Browns. You would be spinning it into so much more than it should be completely out of context causing confusion and disappointment when playing legit teams. Don't create false expectations based on seeing something good vs crappy competition. Badgers fans made that mistake.
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Zero2Cool
7 years ago

A forum must provide context for integrity. Why did we have those sacks? 2 OL out for Tampa a factor? Jameis back after multi game absence after having a poor season before that a factor? Doug Martin out and Desean hurting a factor?

Hundley with 54 passing yards a winning performance? D giving up over 400 to a sputtering O say anything?

Context...context... context.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



I expect context in your posts from now on.
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7 years ago
You can't stop everything... Capers just has to take the limited talent he has healthy and pick his poison...

He choose to try not to let the talented WR beat them deep, which opens up stuff underneath... congrats, Bucs took advantage of it. Packers defense gave up 20 points, but they also got 7, so a net of 13 points. That's not bad.

What's kind of scary is that that on the Packers touchdown drives, the WRs did NOT touch the ball even once... in fact only two passes were attempted, and the only one completed with to the RB.

It'll be interesting to see how Hundley does in Cleveland... if he does well in two road games, then maybe he just can't pass in Lambeau for some reason.
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