Barfarn
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7 years ago
Flynn is SINGING!!!!!!!!! .

Flynn admitted that:
1. On December 29, 2016 [Before Trump took office] Flynn asked the Russian Ambassador to not escalate sanctions against US in response to US sanctions against Russia. And Russia agreed to moderate.
2. On December 22, 2016 Flynn asked Russian Ambassador to delay a vote or beat a UN vote and Russia communicated what they would do.

Additionally, we got the "Quo;" now we just need to prove the "Quid."

And how did our Russian Asset President react on Twitter? Cricketts!

And Fox “News” on this mind-blowing NEWS? Cricketts!
PackFanWithTwins
7 years ago
LOL. This is funny. All the money that has been poured into investigating election collusion and this stupid special investigation is all they can come up with is unrelated tax violations and failure to properly disclose.

Government waste at is best.
The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
Barfarn
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7 years ago
Sorry man, this is just the beginning.

And OMG! It is not just Racketeering stuff: Flynn told the Russians the Trump Administration was opposed to Obama’s position on Egypt's UN proposal regarding Israeli settlements and ask Russia vote cast their UN vote to meet Trump’s wish; and they did. Flynn also asked Russia not to respond to Obama’s sanctions, regarding their interference with our elections and Russia complied. And Papadopoulos pled guilty to lying about not setting up a meet between Russian and Trump Camp.

Why did Russia comply? Easy answer. The main tradecraft of Russian spies is to do anything to get you to do something wrong; once you screw up; they will then hold that over you to get you to do more and more and more bad stuff. After each bad thing, they got their hooks deeper in and after, oh let’s say 1 year, you become a completely compromised Russian asset. Our government has never been so compromised by a foreign power. There is no telling what have have done or not done at Russia’s wish. It’s disgusting!

This is a text book RICO prosecution [right or wrong]. The only difference being this legal Team is the most expert ever assembled and has full access to the full gamut of the US’s intelligence capabilities; our Spyhunters are the most capable and loyal Patriots in the world. Plus, other intelligence agencies of friendly nations or those that hate Trump will pass their intel that our guys, if we did not possess the assets to collect it. Mueller already knows 90% of what occurred. What we’re witnessing today is the Team converting what’s known into admissible evidence.

Manafort and Gates didn’t talk. You got racketeering on them, so you charge them and begin the process of seizing/freezing their assets and bankrupting them with legal fees. Their role with Russia was intentionally left out of their indictments, it will be added later; assuming they don’t change their position on cooperation.

This is done for several reasons: (1) gives Trump a false sense of safety; (2) charges are filed that can be removed to state court so Trump cant pardon; (3) you send a message to the next guys [“Co-operate or we are going to pound you in the ground”]; (4) ya got secretaries, drivers, friends, wives, kids, business associates, lawyers, etc of the targets that are under scrutiny of the full breadth and weight of US surveillance capabilities, so sometimes ya hit the piñata and see how much candy falls; and so forth.

The Manafort raid was unusual in that typically the Feds show up at 5-6am bust through the door announcing their presence or will wait to you exit the home [Its safest way to do it]. But, Manafort didn’t know they were in the house until they burst into his office at midnight. This is only done when someone is in the process of destroying evidence or doing something for which they needed to be caught in the act. This means they had full eyes and ears INSIDE Manafort’s house, which means a judge allowed the surveillance. Manafort is 100% toast!

When the first 3 sealed indictments were filed, no one knew who they were, but numbers are issues sequentially. Those three ended up being Manafort, Gates and Papadopoulos. 2 weeks ago 4 more sealed indictments were filed, the first is Flynn. Wonder who the other 3 are: Page, Pence, Kushner and/or Eric?
Cheesey
7 years ago
Blah blah blah I HATE TRUMP! blah blah blah...
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Barfarn
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7 years ago

Blah blah blah I HATE TRUMP! blah blah blah...

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 



Flynn plead GUILTY to having ILLEGAL communications with Russia. What does this have to do with my feelings of Trump?

In another thread you spoke of consulting "scripture." I ask:

Would Jesus maintain unfettered support for Flynn/Trump after this ADMISSION OF GUILT?

And what would Jesus or the scriptures say about taking a story about Flynn PLEADING GUILTY about his contact with the Russians and misrepresent that its only about racketeering that had nothing to so with the Trump administration?

TO me this does not seem to be the position a Christian should take.

And we have those that talk about NFL protests honoring the flag...Was Flynn honoring the Flag when he was committing TREASON?

I just don't get it; can you explain the , what seem to me to be contradictions?

Should we support a President that is committing criminal acts, just 'cause you voted for him or he's in your party or he's pandering to Chrisitian values, even though his life's work is a collection of SINS?

I dont get it?
Cheesey
7 years ago
It's funny....when Bill Clinton was in office, he could do no wrong according to the lefties. Same with Obama. He put through his "Obama care" without following laws on the books. He could act as a dictator, and what did we hear? Crickets.
So Flynn admits what HE did. So go after him!
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PackFanWithTwins
7 years ago

Flynn plead GUILTY to having ILLEGAL communications with Russia. What does this have to do with my feelings of Trump?

In another thread you spoke of consulting "scripture." I ask:

Would Jesus maintain unfettered support for Flynn/Trump after this ADMISSION OF GUILT?

And what would Jesus or the scriptures say about taking a story about Flynn PLEADING GUILTY about his contact with the Russians and misrepresent that its only about racketeering that had nothing to so with the Trump administration?

TO me this does not seem to be the position a Christian should take.

And we have those that talk about NFL protests honoring the flag...Was Flynn honoring the Flag when he was committing TREASON?

I just don't get it; can you explain the , what seem to me to be contradictions?

Should we support a President that is committing criminal acts, just 'cause you voted for him or he's in your party or he's pandering to Chrisitian values, even though his life's work is a collection of SINS?

I dont get it?

Originally Posted by: Barfarn 



As usual you are wrong. He did not plead guilty to illegal communications. He pleaded guilty to not properly disclosing the communications.

Which still has NOTHING to do with the election


The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
nerdmann
7 years ago
It's bullshit, imo.

Feds already KNEW what Flynn said, they had a transcript of it from their illegal wiretapping. They were obviously just trying to trip him up with incorrect memory of what was said.

At any rate, what he did was normal, not illegal, but it provided yet another fake "bombshell" report and fake reports of the Trump administration "reeling." Some say they were trying to push the tax thing out of the headlines. Some say they were trying to counteract the most recent Project Veritas "nothingburger" video.

ABC Makes "Epic Mistake", Retracts Bombshell Flynn Story 

Trump Congratulates ABC For Firing Brian Ross Over "Horrendously Inaccurate" Report 

From The Archives: Obama Administration Confirms "No Problem" With Flynn Contacting Foreign Officials 

REPORTER: "This building [the Obama State Department] doesn't see anything necessarily inapprorpiate in contact between members of the incoming [Trump] administration and foreign officials, no matter what country they're from?"

OBAMA STATE DEPT SPOKESPERSON: "No, no...and again this has been ongoing. We have no problem with them doing such on their own."



Video:


Mueller Grasps At Straws As Flynn Deal Disproves Election Collusion 

Mueller’s “Statement of Offense” establishes is that there wasn’t an existing backchannel between the Trump campaign and Russia – at least through Flynn, as it pertains to pre-election collusion.




If Flynn were to now drop some new bombshell about greater Russian collusion, he would have lied to the FBI twice.


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nerdmann
7 years ago

Sorry man, this is just the beginning.

And OMG! It is not just Racketeering stuff: Flynn told the Russians the Trump Administration was opposed to Obama’s position on Egypt's UN proposal regarding Israeli settlements and ask Russia vote cast their UN vote to meet Trump’s wish; and they did. Flynn also asked Russia not to respond to Obama’s sanctions, regarding their interference with our elections and Russia complied. And Papadopoulos pled guilty to lying about not setting up a meet between Russian and Trump Camp.

Why did Russia comply? Easy answer. The main tradecraft of Russian spies is to do anything to get you to do something wrong; once you screw up; they will then hold that over you to get you to do more and more and more bad stuff. After each bad thing, they got their hooks deeper in and after, oh let’s say 1 year, you become a completely compromised Russian asset. Our government has never been so compromised by a foreign power. There is no telling what have have done or not done at Russia’s wish. It’s disgusting!

This is a text book RICO prosecution [right or wrong]. The only difference being this legal Team is the most expert ever assembled and has full access to the full gamut of the US’s intelligence capabilities; our Spyhunters are the most capable and loyal Patriots in the world. Plus, other intelligence agencies of friendly nations or those that hate Trump will pass their intel that our guys, if we did not possess the assets to collect it. Mueller already knows 90% of what occurred. What we’re witnessing today is the Team converting what’s known into admissible evidence.

Manafort and Gates didn’t talk. You got racketeering on them, so you charge them and begin the process of seizing/freezing their assets and bankrupting them with legal fees. Their role with Russia was intentionally left out of their indictments, it will be added later; assuming they don’t change their position on cooperation.

This is done for several reasons: (1) gives Trump a false sense of safety; (2) charges are filed that can be removed to state court so Trump cant pardon; (3) you send a message to the next guys [“Co-operate or we are going to pound you in the ground”]; (4) ya got secretaries, drivers, friends, wives, kids, business associates, lawyers, etc of the targets that are under scrutiny of the full breadth and weight of US surveillance capabilities, so sometimes ya hit the piñata and see how much candy falls; and so forth.

The Manafort raid was unusual in that typically the Feds show up at 5-6am bust through the door announcing their presence or will wait to you exit the home [Its safest way to do it]. But, Manafort didn’t know they were in the house until they burst into his office at midnight. This is only done when someone is in the process of destroying evidence or doing something for which they needed to be caught in the act. This means they had full eyes and ears INSIDE Manafort’s house, which means a judge allowed the surveillance. Manafort is 100% toast!

When the first 3 sealed indictments were filed, no one knew who they were, but numbers are issues sequentially. Those three ended up being Manafort, Gates and Papadopoulos. 2 weeks ago 4 more sealed indictments were filed, the first is Flynn. Wonder who the other 3 are: Page, Pence, Kushner and/or Eric?

Originally Posted by: Barfarn 



Manafort was infiltrated into the Trump campaign as part of the set up.

Remember, Hillary tweeted that Trump had a "secret Russian server" set up on his property. However that server traced back to Hillary's people. They tried to run an October Surprise on Trump, but got surprised themselves, by Julian Assange.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
nerdmann
7 years ago
My understanding is there are about 4,200 sealed indictments.

Btw, Russia has a shared interest with the Trump administration. It's called "anti-imperialism."

Remember when the Left was against imperialism? Especially imperial wars of conquest ?





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