Poll Question: Do you believe you've ever watched a fixed sporting event?

Total: 6

nerdmann
6 years ago
Remember in the 2014 NFCCG when Peppers told Burnett to get down?

Seemed like they wanted to win, but not beat the spread or something. Just seemed weird to me. Never saw a team so terrified they might score. And recall, that was an unusually low scoring game for us.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
beast
6 years ago
This is still really freaking sad...

Things didn't go your way so you're pushing conspiracy theories...
That's such a stupidly blinded homer move!


The team freaking put together a decent game for once this season without Rodgers... did better than any of us thought they would (other than maybe Nerd) and instead of giving some due credit, you suggestively blame Vegas for possible interference...


Congrats to Nerd for correctly predicting a bounce back game from Hundley, that was clearly the best we've seen him. As for conspiracy theories, hell maybe Nerd was the one that was paying the Steelers off, why aren't we accusing him? Nerd paid off the Steelers defense to look smart! You heard it here first!
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uffda udfa
6 years ago
Why is it sad? It just is. I didn't go looking for that tweet. I happened to come across it and found it interesting especially in light of the relative easy nature in which we scored our points in the first 3 quarters.

Wrestling is fixed. There are plenty who think it's legit. It's not something Vegas takes bets on. Why would this subject be bad, sad or negative? It's fair given the fact this team was donuted at home by Baltimore and then hung on the road with Pittsburgh on a 13.5 spread? That's a bigger than the Browns spread. Why was the spread so high? Buck even offered gambling advice most likely based off his experience gambling. I'd bet he even agrees games are fixed sometimes. His rebuttal talked all around the central issue.

Again, nobody wants to believe sports are ever fixed. With so much riding on the outcomes you would be naive to believe it never happens. I fear I don't realize how common it is. Not fun to think much of my enjoyment from sports may have been rigged leaving memories tarnished but I will never shut my brain off and dismiss that possibility.


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Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."


beast
6 years ago
It's sad that your looking for excuses of why the Packers did better than expect... just like Vikings fans

You can't stand Packers success (at least not under the current people)... so you're using any and every excuse, even conspiracy theories now to undermine any possible success... it's pathetic!
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Zero2Cool
6 years ago
WWE isn't in same class as NFL. I can't believe I have to say that.
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uffda udfa
6 years ago

It's sad that your looking for excuses of why the Packers did better than expect... just like Vikings fans

You can't stand Packers success (at least not under the current people)... so you're using any and every excuse, even conspiracy theories now to undermine any possible success... it's pathetic!

Originally Posted by: beast 



Your first mistake is considering losing at Pittsburgh "success". Why would I hate the losing? I should be thrilled? No?

I did NOT even think about it being fixed until I saw that tweet. Never entered my mind or I would've brought it up in chat. I did bring up the gifts we received from Steelers D to Z's chagrin.

Saw the tweet and thought back on what I witnessed and couldn't in good conscience dismiss the possibility so I posted what I felt was an interesting nugget.
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Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."


beast
6 years ago

Why would I hate the losing?

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



Admitting your hoping they lose... just plain pathetic
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Barfarn
6 years ago


He has spent so much time and effort pushing HIS 4 YEAR AGENDA that The Packers organization, as a whole , needs to be blown up.

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 



You can't stand Packers success (at least not under the current people)... so you're using any and every excuse, even conspiracy theories now to undermine any possible success... it's pathetic!

Originally Posted by: beast 



BOTH WRONG!

Trump said, "She [Liz Warren] is one of the least productive senators in the United States Senate. We call her 'Pocahontas' for a reason."

Then, a day or so ago, while purporting to honor WW2 Code Talkers, he said, "We have a representative in Congress who they say was here a long time ago. They call her Pocahontas. But you know what, I like you."

When asked about these racists and provocative comments that disrespected the honor of the moment in a PC, Sara Huckleberry Sasquatch, misrepresented her knowledge of Trump’s comments being racist fabricated, her knowledge of Warren’s heritage and deflected from the relevant issue by saying that Warren lying about her heritage is what the issue should be.” She never did answer the reporter’s question.

That's when it hit me: He’s not trying to advance his Ted/Mike agenda of hate; he’s auditioning for WH press secretary.
Zero2Cool
6 years ago

For quite some years, I've believed certain sporting events are fixed. Greed and corruption rule the human heart. Knowing which games are fixed is always a challenge but anyone who has ever watched ESPNs BAD BEATS segment with Scott Van Pelt has to know this happens.

We saved Vegas...

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



Absolutely some sporting events are fixed or moderately altered in some shape or form. The NFL game between Packers and Steelers was not one of them. The Packers made some good plays on offense and did some things that confused the Steelers defense. We should be familiar with this because offenses to do it our defense all the time! haha. (I cried when I laughed there, cuz its true).

NFL is the ultimate TEAM sport. Officials can change the outcome (e.g. Fail Mary game) with a single call, or a plethora of calls, but these are so over analyzed that everyone would have a red flag. There are also something like 6 or 7 officials on the field.

Sports like Baseball or Basketball that have less players, less officials and more gray area plays (e.g. strike zone, tightly spined ball, corked bat) with fewer officials that have a greater impact. Those type of sports can be affected much more than NFL games.

The Packers weren't in the game vs Steelers because of Vegas or whatever conspiracy. They played a damn good game and didn't make many mental mistakes. If that team were to show up every week and play at least 45 minutes throughout the 60 minutes, we'd have a real damn chance to be Super Bowl contenders.

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uffda udfa
6 years ago
Z...I'm happy to read you believe some events are fixed. A virtual certainty.

What I don't understand is your dogmatic assertion this game couldn't possibly be one of them. ALL games deserve scrutiny when fully considering this issue. I would say this one moves to the top of the list of most likely candidates based on the tweet and the miraculous difference from Baltimore to Pittsburgh. Not saying game was fixed just that this one is highly suspicious and it wouldn't be any surprise to one day learn the outcome was manipulated in some fashion.

As a fan of the team it makes it hard to go there but that's when you really have to take the team's name out of this and look at tweet, last week and week before and look at it like a judge carefully considering the evidence. There's precedent and circumstantial evidence.
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Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."


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Zero2Cool (20-Nov) : He landed good players thanks to high draft slot. He isn't good.
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beast (20-Nov) : More knowledge, just like bring in the Jets head coach
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : What? Why? Huh?
beast (19-Nov) : I wonder if the Packers might to try to bring Douglas in through Milt Hendrickson/Ravens connections
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : The Jets fired Joe Douglas, per sources
packerfanoutwest (19-Nov) : Jets are a mess......
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : Pretty sure Jets fired their scouting staff and just pluck former Packers.
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : Jets sign Anders Carlson to their 53.
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : When you cycle the weeks, the total over remains for season. But you get your W/L for that selected week. Confusing.
packerfanoutwest (19-Nov) : the total and percentage are the same as the previous weeks
packerfanoutwest (19-Nov) : the total and percentage are the same as the previous weeks
packerfanoutwest (19-Nov) : the totals are accurate..nrvrtmind
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : I don't follow what you are saying. The totals are not the same as last week.
packerfanoutwest (19-Nov) : ok so then wht are the totals the same as last week?
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : NFL Pick'em is auto updated when NFL Scores tab is clicked
Martha Careful (19-Nov) : The offense was OK. Let's not forget the Bear defense is very very good.
packerfanoutwest (19-Nov) : Who updates the leaderboard on NFLPickem?
beast (19-Nov) : Has the Packers offense been worse since the former Jets coach joined the Packers?
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : Offense gets his ass in gear, this could be good.
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : Backup QB helped with three wins. Special Teams contributed to three wins.
bboystyle (18-Nov) : Lions played outside thats why. They scored 16 and 17 in the only 2 outside games this year
Zero2Cool (18-Nov) : The rest of the NFL is catching up to Packers ... kicking is an issue throughout league
packerfanoutwest (18-Nov) : Packers DL Kenny Clark: We knew 'we were going to block' Bears' game-winning field goal attempt
Zero2Cool (18-Nov) : Lions seem to be throttling everyone, but only (only) got 24 lol maybe the rain is why
Zero2Cool (18-Nov) : Packers vs Lions game doesn't seem so bad.
beast (18-Nov) : Dennis Green "They are what we thought they were, and we let them off the hook!"
Martha Careful (17-Nov) : comment of the day Z2Cool "Bears better than we want to admit. Packers worse than we think. It's facts."
Mucky Tundra (17-Nov) : my worst case scenario: Bears fix their oline and get a coach like Johnson from the Lions and his scheme
Zero2Cool (17-Nov) : Bears get OL fixed amd we might have a problem
buckeyepackfan (17-Nov) : Pretty sure they already have scouting reports on guys who aren't even starting for their college team. The future is now for me.
buckeyepackfan (17-Nov) : I tend to let Gute and Co. Worry about the future.
beast (17-Nov) : That's great news and Packers need to keep upgrading their OL, DL and DBs this off-season, so missing one guy doesn't kill them
beast (17-Nov) : That's great news and Packers need to keep upgrading their OL, DL and DBs this off-season, so missing one guy doesn't kill them
buckeyepackfan (17-Nov) : Jaire and Evans Williams are both ACTIVE! Good news.
Martha Careful (17-Nov) : The badgers really need to change the whole offensive scheme. No draws no screens plus the quarterback is marginal
Cheesey (17-Nov) : If the Badgers had a decent QB, they would have won. The guy can't hit a wide open receiver
Martha Careful (17-Nov) : chop block
Martha Careful (17-Nov) : there was a very questionable job Block call that upon viewing replay was very borderline
beast (17-Nov) : How so? (I didn't watch)
Zero2Cool (17-Nov) : Badgers got hosed vs Oregon
packerfanoutwest (16-Nov) : damn,he hasn't played since week 2
Mucky Tundra (15-Nov) : poor guy can't catch a break
wpr (15-Nov) : wow. That three different things for the kid.
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