Let Hundley throw INTs.· Page 3

wpr
Preferred Member

7 years ago

I can put up an online board and put the entire Wisconsin defense in the first round. That doesn't mean they are first round talent. It means I bought a domain and put up some keystrokes.

Sorry, I cannot agree with you here that you comparing two QB's who were drafted to be the franchise leaders (12th and 2nd overall) are anything remotely comparable to someone drafted by an Aaron Rodgers led team in the 5th round. It's like Apples and Sausage to me.

I've watched him play (as you I am sure, not implying you're not) and looked for things to be positive. I looked for better footwork. I looked for quicker decisions. I looked for tighter spirals. I have LOOKED for things to be optimistic about ... the fucker won't give me a god damn thing to be positive about!

--- deep breath ---

Sorry 'bout that. Anyways, young QB's should be told to count to three in your head, if you haven't thrown the ball, you toss it out of bounds or run north and slide. At least that's what I think gives a young QB a chance to get into a rhythm and build confidence and move the chains.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

I would respect Hundley a lot more if he could move the chains on a semi consistent manner. Hand-off the ball, pass or even let him scramble for the first down.

Cheesey
Preferred Member

7 years ago

#22

Hundley stinks. He doesn't throw to open guys.
When a guy IS open, he waits 2 seconds, THEN throws the ball. By then, the guy is no longer open and it's intercepted.
This season is over. No reason to have Rodgers return.

steveishere
Veteran Member

7 years ago

#23

The guy has taken 3 sacks on 4th down this year and runs out of good pockets into sacks and pressure on a pretty regular basis. On top of that was an all-time dumb move when he called TO with like 15 seconds on the play clock and 11 seconds till the quarter runs out. He can't handle the speed of the game on the field. He's not "bailing" because of some conscious decision to extend the play like Aaron Rodgers he's doing it because he can't read the field and process what's happening in real time.

He's been in the same system for 3 years playing in an offense that is top 5 with it's starter. 38 QBs have thrown over 100 passes this year and Hundley ranks 37th only ahead of a 2nd round rookie on the worst team in the league. Dude's just a bad player. Any other coach would move on to someone else at this point but McCarthy is stubborn and no doubt thinks he can fix it with some fundamentals.

olds70supreme
Member

7 years ago

#24

Hundley has had some nice ups, and a lot of crappy downs. I can't affect what is going to happen with this season, but I do have some hope. I've heard multiple people (this board and others) hammer home the "he's been here for 2+ years, he can't cut it...". It's possible that for some people, not playing the game for that long actually hurts their development. Sound crazy? Maybe (I might be stretching just to have hope for the rest of the season, lol). I know that if I have a lot of time to think about something I have to do, I have the tendancy to over think it. Think of learning to ride a bike. If you just hop on w/o thinking about what might happen, it will probably end in a scraped knee. If you study someone else riding a bike for weeks on end, you might end up focusing on the mechanics too much and still end up w/ a scraped knee. Ideally, you will have the right amount of understanding what steps you need to take but without overthinking it.

I'm hoping this is another Mason Crosby scenario. A few years ago virtually every Packer fan (myself included) though he needed to go, but McCarthy stuck w/ him and it seems to have worked out well in the long run.

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beast
Select Member

7 years ago

#25

The guy has taken 3 sacks on 4th down this year and runs out of good pockets into sacks and pressure on a pretty regular basis.

Originally Posted by: steveishere

Yeah that's what killing me most on him... when he gets good protection and he runs away from the protection and into the pressure... that's just a killer...

He just seems to run towards the pressure better than he does staying away from it.

Hundley has doesn't have the instincts for staying away from pressure... then he gets hit and when he gets hit, he's then gets gun shy and holds onto the ball longer.

dhazer
Veteran Member

7 years ago

#26

This is the problem right here. People comparing Brett Hundley to one of the all time great QB to ever play. Unreal how we set such unattainable expectations and then trash someone.

We act like Brett Favre and Aaron Rodgers type QB fall out of trees or something. Let's get freaking real.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

Well we know they don't fall from trees silly, they grow in MM's quarterback school. I remember always hearing how great a qb coach Mike McCarthy is. He always developed the great ones. Hell look at his record of being a coach , you have Joe Montana, Steve Young, Brett Favre and Aaron Rodgers. He developed them all lol.

Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

7 years ago

#27

Originally Posted by: dhazer

You realize the CBA really had a big part in ruining the QB school, right? Regardless, people say he did well with Brett Favre. He did. People say he did well with developing Aaron Rodgers, he did. We all saw Matt Flynn have success under McCarthy and be a complete flop elsewhere. Hell, even Scott Tolzien looked better in the Packers offense than he has elsewhere.

Favre was already developed, but he also developed an entitlement. McCarthy sat Brett down and they reviewed every single one of the 29 interceptions Brett threw in 2005. They discussed his reads, why he threw it and what have you. Brett was frustrated by this and quipped "ya know I threw a lot of TD's too right" (that's not an exact quote).

I am not sure why we exaggerate things so much to the extreme. Why not call it like it is? He's good with QB's and respected in his profession for his work with QB's.

selinofell197
Registered

5 years ago

#28

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