Formo......if he has paid his "debt to society", i agree, he should get a chance.
IF anyone WANTS to hire him in the NFL. If someone wants to take that chance, so be it. I wouldn't want him on MY team though.
Thats up to each team owner to decide. Do they want to take a HUGE chance on a so-so QB, and take the possible backlash? If so, by all means, hire the guy.

"Cheesey" wrote:

I don't know the stats on Vick's passing, but I gotta believe that it is better than average. Again, not sure, I'll have to do some research..

But to answer the question, Vick, hands down.

T.O. is over rated. I've seen SOO many of his catches that he was more lucky to have caught them than it took talent to catch them. It's almost his hands are made of rock, and the ball bounces around between them before he gets his claws on it/or the refs call it a catch. Don't get me wrong, he's talented. But, still, over rated.

There are about 4 or so other WRs that I'd take over T.O. Fitzgerald, Moss, Boldin, and Reggie Wayne are 4 just from the top of my head that I'd take over T.O.

Oh, and my team needs a QB.

As far as the morality of Mr. Vick.. He's paying his dues now. And you better believe that the NFL will still penalize him when he's done with his sentence. When/If he gets reinstated, I gotta believe he'll come out a smarter, better human being. What he did, was wrong. But I also recognize that he's human, along with the rest of us. Not to mention.. I hate to say it, especially to those of you whom are dog lovers (this includes me), but, his victims.. were dogs. Not beings capable of moral fiber and emotional or logical decision making. Murder of a human being will ALWAYS be the greater 'sin' over the murder of a dog.

"Formo" wrote:

TO is 5th all time in receiving yardage, 2nd all-time in receiving TDs. I don't see how anyone can say he's overrated.

Yes, he drops balls. But no one can cover him, just like no one can cover Randy Moss.

Fitzgerald is the ONLY one who has the potential to be the next TO. I already said Moss is better, but TO is consistently good, every year.

Now, here's something that's shocking. This is TO in the 00s in Receiving TDs:
2001 - 1st place in the NFL
2002 - 1st place in the NFL
2003 - 10th place
2004 - 3rd place
2006 - 1st place
2007 - 3rd place
2008 - 5th place

He scores TDs. He's a monster.

Now Michael Vick. Only played one whole season in his career. One. Injury prone like crazy. Not only that, can't throw the football. He only had one season where he threw over 80 rating (81.6). His max TDs was a whopping 20 (which is a really bad year for Brett Favre for example). His next best year, he threw a whopping 16 TDs.

Granted, he can run. But he can't throw. If he was running for 10+ TDs a season, then I'd consider him more, but his max TDs rushing was 8.

Don't get me wrong, I appreciate a scrambling QB, but you have to throw the ball as well, which is something Michael Vick can't do.

Sorry Formo. As much as I usually agree with you on everything, I completely disagree on this one.

"Formo" wrote:

Formo - Yeah. It's too bad. I really like AP. He's exciting to watch. But AP may end up like Barry Sanders - the heart of the team, but with not enough talent elsewhere to go to the next level. It really is a shame that Sanders played all those years and never got a ring. I fear AP will do the same.

Unlike the other people on this board, I'm not anti the other teams on the NFC Central (now it's called the North). If we don't make it, I root for the other teams in our division. I've always had soft spots for Wallie Payton then later Barry Sanders and now I'm warming up to AP. But it looks like AP will have the same career path as Barry. At least Payton got one ring. You guys are a QB away from being SB contenders.

"zombieslayer" wrote: