Clock ticking on Dom Capers' Packers defense

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

7 years ago

I think the clock is broken.

If you had foreseen nose tackle Kenny Clark becoming one of the most productive players on defense, inside linebacker Blake Martinez ranking seventh in the NFL in tackles and rookie cornerback Kevin King giving up just one touchdown in the first seven games, you probably would have predicted the Green Bay Packers' defense finally would have turned the corner by now.

But here it is, approaching the midway point of the season, and nothing has changed with defensive coordinator Dom Capers’ unit.

It is woefully lacking in pass rush, it can’t get off the field on third down, it can’t stop anybody in the red zone and its run defense is ranked in the bottom quarter of the league.

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PackFanWithTwins
Veteran Member

7 years ago

Same weaknesses it has had for years. Inconsistent pass rush and weak over the middle in passing.

Pass rush I'm putting it on the players, the guys down front are not beating the guys across from them, not a whole lot Dom can do about that. All he could do is blitz more to create more pressure but that weakens the backend more.

the weak pass defense over the middle is something I can't understand how they haven't addressed. Every other team sees it and exploits it against us, all the fans see it. either Mike and Dom are blind and can't see it, or they can't figure out how to fix the issue. I don't think it is a player talent issue because it has been ongoing for many years and many different combinations of talent Our guys are not that much less talented then the rest of the guys in the NFL So that makes me believe it is a hole in the scheme Dom can't figure out.

The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!

Porforis
Veteran Member

7 years ago

Honestly, I think 90% of this comes down to pass rush. We can't get pressure with 4 and the more men we send the more exposed we are elsewhere. This especially hurts us on 3rd and long, where QBs regularly have 3, 4, 5 seconds to get the ball out even if we're sending extra men on a blitz.

Dom needs to get creative and someone(s) needs to step up.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

7 years ago

Dom needs to get creative and someone(s) needs to step up.

Originally Posted by: Porforis

He's been plenty creative on the plethora of ways allowing teams to get first down after 3rd and 10+ yards. We need more beat the man across from you stuff.

uffda udfa
Veteran Member

7 years ago

Where has our media been all these years? They're coming up with all these kind of articles NOW? It's been YEARS on a lot of these issues that "all of a sudden" they're getting around to noticing?

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

buckeyepackfan
Veteran Member

7 years ago

With all the negativity floating around here I guess there's nothing else to do but wait till Monday Night.
Packers lose and everyone's happy.

Packers win , they still suck, they just played a team that sucked more.

I was addicted to The Hokey Pokey, but I turned myself around!

uffda udfa
Veteran Member

7 years ago

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan

The Lions have won ONE game in Wisconsin in the last 25 years. I would hope we would win this one. If not, wouldn't it seem apparent that it's not looking very good? It wouldn't be negative. It would be logical. Big difference.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

beast
Select Member

7 years ago

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

I would hope that Packers fans would hope the Packers won all there games (not that it's logical, but as fans they should hope for it).

And that one game was two years ago, so in the last two years the Packers and Lions have split their games in Wisconsin as the Lions have been a lot better recently than they have been over most of the past 25 years.

uffda udfa
Veteran Member

7 years ago

Originally Posted by: beast

I do hope Hundley looks like the player I thought he was. If he looks terrible, again, it's pretty logical to believe, not hope, that the season is in serious jeopardy at 4-4 and a horrible QB in place of 12.

You know I want regime change, and the best way to effect that is by losing just like in the Sherman era when Ted forced it. I do think it would be so deliciously poetic, if he and Mike McCarthy got the boot not trying to tank but tanking because of 12's absence. It ain't gonna happen, but I can admit that I would enjoy it thoroughly because of my well documented thoughts on the pairing.

Lions never beat us with Barry Sanders the GOAT at RB. They've not been putrid for 25 years. Not a good road team outside those domes they've been in.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

Cheesey
Preferred Member

7 years ago

#10

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan

I don't agree with your assessment. Do I WANT the Packers to lose??? NEVER!!!!! But the reality is, right now, I haven't seen anything to make me believe they are able to beat anyone.
To say you have, well....I just wonder what team you watched the last 2 weeks.
Aaron Rodgers covered up a HUGE amount of weaknesses with his play. Being able to keep the team in the game when our defense gave up score after score.
They don't have that now.
Expecting a new unproven guy to do that....well...I think that's asking too much.
Had TT, Mike McCarthy and Capers done something to improve this awful defense, maybe we would have a chance to hang with other teams. But no pass rush, and D-backs that let guys get wide open every down, you can't cover up that kind of weakness with an average or below average QB.

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