Zero2Cool
7 years ago
What do you feel gives you the best chance for a Super Bowl winning season? A great quarterback or a great defense?

Great QB being defined as one of the top ten QB in league.
Great defense being defined as top five in scoring against and top ten in yards given up.

Maybe not what do you feel gives you best chance, maybe what would you rather have between the two?
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nerdmann
7 years ago

What do you feel gives you the best chance for a Super Bowl winning season? A great quarterback or a great defense?

Great QB being defined as one of the top ten QB in league.
Great defense being defined as top five in scoring against and top ten in yards given up.

Maybe not what do you feel gives you best chance, maybe what would you rather have between the two?

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Rules favor offense. But a QB is just one guy, lose him and you're stuck. Seems like teams with QBs are the ones more likely to repeat, no?
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hardrocker950
7 years ago
Are we talking about an average team with the exception of the D/QB?
beast
7 years ago

No one thing always wins, but generally speaking, it does seem like defense wins Championships (assuming they got a decent offense to go with it). While Dan Marino, Brett Favre, Peyton Manning and Aaron Rodgers have 4 Championships between them. Also it seems like great defensive teams can normally get decent running games going, where great QBs can't always get decent defenses going.


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nerdmann
7 years ago

No one thing always wins, but generally speaking, it does seem like defense wins Championships (assuming they got a decent offense to go with it). While Dan Marino, Brett Favre, Peyton Manning and Aaron Rodgers have 4 Championships between them. Also it seems like great defensive teams can normally get decent running games going, where great QBs can't always get decent defenses going.

Originally Posted by: beast 



Defense wins championships, QBs get you there. That's my working hypothhesis.
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yooperfan
7 years ago
Personally I love defense and the ability to run the football, I'll go with a great defense.
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Zero2Cool
7 years ago

No one thing always wins, but generally speaking, it does seem like defense wins Championships (assuming they got a decent offense to go with it). While Dan Marino, Brett Favre, Peyton Manning and Aaron Rodgers have 4 Championships between them. Also it seems like great defensive teams can normally get decent running games going, where great QBs can't always get decent defenses going.

Originally Posted by: beast 



Eli Manning, Trent Dilfer and Russell Wilson have 4 championships between them. Seems messed up to me.
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PackFanWithTwins
7 years ago
The team has to have enough offense to get there. MN has had some pretty damn good defenses, but an offense where if Peterson was stopped they couldn't score. The only year they really came close is when they had Brett.

Even with a top defense the team has to have a serviceable QB along with a run game. The entire notion about defense winning SB is because when you get deep into the playoffs there are really no bad offenses left, they are all close and when the offenses get close the difference is the Defense.

so to answer the question I would prefer a Great defense, with a QB who can play but doesn't cost an arm and leg, so there is money to have skill players around him.
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Porforis
7 years ago
Under that criteria, defense. But there's a TON of difference between the #3 QB and the #10 QB. Far more than between the #2 and #5 scoring defenses, #3 and #10 yards given up defenses. Top 5 QB? I'd take the QB.
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