nerdmann
7 years ago

IMO the Packers defense is no better at stopping people from scoring or on third down, or really in any category now than they were in 2010. Which has basically been the case since 2010. The big thing they did in 2010 was produce a lot of turnovers, and a lot of them were at key points. You can give up a lot of first downs and yardage if you're taking the ball away 3 times a game.

Originally Posted by: Porforis 



We lost Woody, and Clay is off the juice. That said, we've got Nick Perry, some guys who can play. Losing Shields hurt.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
7 years ago

We lost Woody, and Clay is off the juice. That said, we've got Nick Perry, some guys who can play. Losing Shields hurt.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



The list is too long on players that were let go that should still be on the team. But when the mentality is just make it to the playoffs and hope for the best, all that does is keep the ordinary/pedestrian fan keep supporting the team win or lose with no complaints, what so ever. But look out when they are criticized..........sometimes truth hurts.

The season is not over, just yet.
yooperfan
7 years ago
This article reflects what some of us have been saying for years.
We (the Green Bay Packers) would be lucky to be 8-8 with the teams Ted Thompson has built if it wasn’t for number 12.
nerdmann
7 years ago

This article reflects what some of us have been saying for years.
We (the Green Bay Packers) would be lucky to be 8-8 with the teams Ted Thompson has built if it wasn’t for number 12.

Originally Posted by: yooperfan 



You realize Ted added Aaron to this team, right?
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
yooperfan
7 years ago

You realize Ted added Aaron to this team, right?

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 


I do.😝

Porforis
7 years ago
I would kindly remind everyone that just because we let someone go and they had success somewhere else, doesn't mean that if we would have kept them they'd have success here. Or, if there's a player that has success somewhere else, there's no guarantee they'll have success here.

As you can see with the entire team tanking without 12, this isn't Madden where players are just a bunch of stats in different areas. It's a team game, there's a billion and a half reasons why someone might succeed with Team X but not Team Y.
PackFanWithTwins
7 years ago

The list is too long on players that were let go that should still be on the team. But when the mentality is just make it to the playoffs and hope for the best, all that does is keep the ordinary/pedestrian fan keep supporting the team win or lose with no complaints, what so ever. But look out when they are criticized..........sometimes truth hurts.

The season is not over, just yet.

Originally Posted by: packerfanoutwest 



Of this long list of players, what would have been the impact of keeping them to the ability to sign players in the future?
The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
Zero2Cool
7 years ago

I would kindly remind everyone that just because we let someone go and they had success somewhere else, doesn't mean that if we would have kept them they'd have success here. Or, if there's a player that has success somewhere else, there's no guarantee they'll have success here.

As you can see with the entire team tanking without 12, this isn't Madden where players are just a bunch of stats in different areas. It's a team game, there's a billion and a half reasons why someone might succeed with Team X but not Team Y.

Originally Posted by: Porforis 



When I see players like Casey Hayward and Micah Hyde continue the success and improved success on other teams, it just makes me think we are getting talented players but our coaching staff is failing at getting the most out of them.
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PackFanWithTwins
7 years ago

When I see players like Casey Hayward and Micah Hyde continue the success and improved success on other teams, it just makes me think we are getting talented players but our coaching staff is failing at getting the most out of them.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



It also opportunity. Much like with a backup QB not getting the snaps, the same applies to other positions. Hyde is not as good as Burnett at SS, so he wasn't going to get the snaps and playing time. Same for Hayward at the time. He was not going to be #1 or #2 on the roster so he would not get those snaps. Moving on to organizations where they had an opportunity that they were not going to have here.
The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
nerdmann
7 years ago

When I see players like Casey Hayward and Micah Hyde continue the success and improved success on other teams, it just makes me think we are getting talented players but our coaching staff is failing at getting the most out of them.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



What I see is the effect of other training staffs.

Casey Hayward goes away and his hammies magically get cured. He becomes a pro bowler, BOOM.

Now look at Jahri Evans. Dude has been stalwart, unlike the guys who've been here awhile. Not to jinx him of course.
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Zero2Cool (9h) : sounds like Packers don't get good compensation, Jaire staying
dfosterf (13h) : Nobody coming up with a keep, but at x amount
dfosterf (13h) : Trade, cut or keep
dfosterf (14h) : that from Jaire
dfosterf (14h) : My guess is the Packers floated the concept of a reworked contract via his agent and agent got a f'
Zero2Cool (14h) : Yes, and that is why I think Rob worded it how he did. Rather than say "agent"
dfosterf (14h) : Same laws apply. Agent must present such an offer to Jaire. Cannot accept or reject without presenting it
Zero2Cool (14h) : I'm thinking that is why Rob worded it how he did.
dfosterf (14h) : The Packers can certainly still make the offer to the agent
dfosterf (14h) : Laws of agency and definition of fiduciary responsibility
dfosterf (14h) : Jaire is open to a reduced contract without Jaire's permission
dfosterf (14h) : The agent would arguably violate the law if he were to tell the Packers
Zero2Cool (15h) : That someone ... likely the agent.
Zero2Cool (15h) : So, Jaire has not been offered nor rejected a pay reduction, but someone says he'd decline.
Zero2Cool (15h) : Demovksy says t was direct communication with someone familiar with Jaire’s line of thinking at that moment.
Zero2Cool (15h) : Demovsky just replied to me a bit ago. Jaire hasn't said it.
dfosterf (17h) : Of course, that depends on the definition of "we"
dfosterf (17h) : We have been told that they haven't because he wouldn't accept it. I submit we don't know that
dfosterf (17h) : What is the downside in making a calculated reduced offer to Jaire?
Zero2Cool (15-Apr) : Packers are receiving interest in Jaire Alexander but a trade is not imminent
Zero2Cool (15-Apr) : Jalen Ramsey wants to be traded. He's never happy is he?
Zero2Cool (15-Apr) : two 1sts in 2022 and two 2nd's in 2023 and 2024
Zero2Cool (15-Apr) : Packers had fortunate last three drafts.
dfosterf (15-Apr) : I may have to move
dfosterf (15-Apr) : My wife just told the ancient Japanese sushi dude not enough rice under his fish
Zero2Cool (14-Apr) : I think a dozen is what I need
dfosterf (14-Apr) : Go fund me for this purpose just might work. A dozen nurses show up at 1265 to provide mental health assistance.
dfosterf (14-Apr) : Maybe send a crew of Angels to the Packers draft room on draft day.
Zero2Cool (14-Apr) : I am the Angel that gets visited.
dfosterf (14-Apr) : Visiting Angels has a pretty good reputation
Zero2Cool (14-Apr) : what
Martha Careful (14-Apr) : WINNING IT, not someone else losing it. The best victory though was re-uniting with his wife
Martha Careful (14-Apr) : The manner in which he won it was just amazing and wonderful. First blowing the lead then getting back, then blowing it. But ultimately
Zero2Cool (12-Apr) : I'm guessing since the thumb was broken, he wasn't feeling it.
dfosterf (10-Apr) : Looking for guidance. Not feeling the thumb.
Mucky Tundra (10-Apr) : If they knew about it or not
Mucky Tundra (10-Apr) : I don't recall that he did which is why I asked.
Zero2Cool (10-Apr) : Guessing they probably knew. Did he have cast or something on?
Mucky Tundra (10-Apr) : Did they know that at the time or was that something the realized afterwards?
Zero2Cool (9-Apr) : Van Ness played most of season with broken thumb
wpr (9-Apr) : yay
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Mucky Tundra (8-Apr) : *CHOMP CHOMP CHOMP*
Zero2Cool (2-Apr) : WR who said he'd break Xavier Worthy 40 time...and ran slower than you
Mucky Tundra (2-Apr) : Who?
Zero2Cool (2-Apr) : Texas’ WR Isaiah Bond is scheduled to visit the Bills, Browns, Chiefs, Falcons, Packers and Titans starting next week.
Zero2Cool (2-Apr) : Spotting ball isn't changing, only measuring distance is, Which wasn't the issue.
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