uffda udfa
7 years ago
Breaking my self imposed rule on posting in season because I've heard it's over? Watching Sunday, while I could stomach it, it appeared the Packers needed a grief counselor more than points against the Vikings. I don't think I've ever felt more hollow watching any team anywhere anytime. Sports is intangibles to me. I feel the rhythms and emotions and this one felt so awful and different I couldn't watch it end to end.

So, is it over? I thought and said it was over after seeing what we did to "improve" the CB situation. Losing 12 just speeds up the despondency minus the regular disappointment that usually goes along with it as expectations are grossly reduced. We were already dead before the ball was kicked on this season.

This is the time we see what we've truly built here in Green Bay. The Rodgers is everything crowd vs. the, no, we're a great organization/team loaded with talent battle begins in earnest on Sunday. Ironically, I got into it with Ryan Wood on Twitter who muted me because he couldn't respond intelligently. Wood mocked a tweeter who claimed Ted Thompson and Mike McCarthy needed to be accountable if our backup QB plan didn't work out. Wood, clearly in the Packers are great crowd and Rodgers is everything simultaneously, wanted to hedge and basically say without Rodgers it was over. How could that be if we're a rock solid org/team? Matt Cassel went 11-5 in NE after Brady was injured Week 1. How could Brett Hundley who has been groomed for 3 camps not be ready when he's been under Mike McCarthy who is a noted QB guru? How could Brett Hundley fail when Ted had a higher grade on him and was thrilled to trade up and get him in Round 5? How could Brett Hundley fail when he's had 3 years of Aaron Rodgers mentoring him? Matt Flynn did reasonably well. Why can't we be reasonably effective with Hundley unless the org has failed? And...the larger point...How are Ted Thompson and Mike McCarthy not responsible if Hundley fails? It's not like this is the first time around the QB carousel. Our team imploded without 12 the last time he broke his collarbone so how could we not be better prepared for this this time around? I would submit all one has to do is look at the defense over the last several years for a potential answer? Oh, I hear INJURIES! INJURIES, man! 12 has preached NO EXCUSES this season. Our media and fanbase are rife with them.

Brett Hundley was the most exciting rookie I've seen in the last 10 years or more in preseason during his rookie campaign. I wanted him to play when Aaron was in his funk a couple of years ago. So, I'm a Hundley fan. What we saw on Sunday was a horror show but I think the last person on earth who thought Brett Hundley was going to play was Brett Hundley. He wasn't mentally ready in any way shape or form. This Sunday he will be. This could be another galvanizing moment for this team. I recall when Sterling Sharpe went down. Everyone thought we were done. Same with when Robert Brooks went out vs. SF. Those injuries made the team better. Now, those guys aren't Aaron Rodgers but same principle applies. The mental coasting each player taps into because they know they have 12 is gone. Each man now knows he has to give above what he's been giving. How much more do they have to offer? We'll see on Sunday.

As I look at the schedule, I see 2-3 games this team could/should win with Hundley at the helm prior to Week 15. Hundley goes 3-3 and we're at 7-5 or 6-6 with 4 to go. So, if you're really into the precious playoff streak continuing we might be able to do that but I never thought we were going far with our D with 12. The good news is if we do make the playoffs and Aaron is back plus have to play Dallas, it will be in Dallas which is more advantageous than playing in Green Bay. All predicated on a successful surgery which speeds up timeline of a potential return. It healed naturally, previously, and took 7 weeks. Throwing side changes things from what I read, but if it's not as bad as last time or even same severity why couldn't he be back Week 14 or 15?

You wanted the Lombardi back in Green Bay? Hardly going out on a limb by saying there's next to no chance of that and there never was this defense to begin with anyway. It will be fun to watch some of the young guys as the weeks roll on. Devante Mays will become a factor at some point, in my mind. Biegel and Montravious should be fun to monitor as well as Josh and Aaron Jones along with King.

If you care about the playoff streak?

“The reports of it's death are greatly exaggerated.”








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isocleas2
7 years ago

So, is it over?I thought and said it was over after seeing what we did to "improve" the CB situation. Losing 12 just speeds up the despondency minus the regular disappointment that usually goes along with it as expectations are grossly reduced. We were already dead before the ball was kicked on this season.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



You're still delusional, the packers were 4-1 before Rodgers went down and that was while sustaining numerous key injuries on offense/defense. Hell the CB/S/OL is hardly recognizable with all the new faces being forced to play. Yet the Packers were dead before the season started? 💤

Your expectations are unreal and your illogical approach to attaining them is even more so.
Zero2Cool
7 years ago

Breaking my self imposed rule on posting in season because I've heard it's over?

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



Glad we can discuss things now instead of shouting at one another 😉
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7 years ago
In the very limited opportunity that Hundley has been given he has appeared in parts of 7 games. He has completed 48% of his passes. He has 1 TD and 4 Ints. His rating is a whopping 28! Oh and he has been sacked 4 times.

Nothing that he has shown us in REAL games gives me any kind of warm fuzzing feeling that he is going to lead this team to very many victories.
Looking at the next 10 weeks I can see 10 losses as a real possibility.
Saints- L
Lions- L
Bears- maybe W if the defense plays well.
Ravens- L
Steelers- L
Bucs- W hopefully
Browns- W
Panthers- L
Vikies- L
Lions- L
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nerdmann
7 years ago

In the very limited opportunity that Hundley has been given he has appeared in parts of 7 games. He has completed 48% of his passes. He has 1 TD and 4 Ints. His rating is a whopping 28! Oh and he has been sacked 4 times.

Nothing that he has shown us in REAL games gives me any kind of warm fuzzing feeling that he is going to lead this team to very many victories.
Looking at the next 10 weeks I can see 10 losses as a real possibility.
Saints- L
Lions- L
Bears- maybe W if the defense plays well.
Ravens- L
Steelers- L
Bucs- W hopefully
Browns- W
Panthers- L
Vikies- L
Lions- L

Originally Posted by: wpr 



One INT was tipped, one hit the ground, but wendidn't have a challenge left. I forget the other. Maybe he'll do better if he takes at least one snap in practice the week before, no?

Don't forget Monty failed to hold onto that TD as well.

R E L A X.

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nerdmann
7 years ago
Only thing I question is, how long will it be before Hundley pulls a hammy? #NotToJinx
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
PackFanWithTwins
7 years ago

In the very limited opportunity that Hundley has been given he has appeared in parts of 7 games. He has completed 48% of his passes. He has 1 TD and 4 Ints. His rating is a whopping 28! Oh and he has been sacked 4 times.

Nothing that he has shown us in REAL games gives me any kind of warm fuzzing feeling that he is going to lead this team to very many victories.
Looking at the next 10 weeks I can see 10 losses as a real possibility.
Saints- L
Lions- L
Bears- maybe W if the defense plays well.
Ravens- L
Steelers- L
Bucs- W hopefully
Browns- W
Panthers- L
Vikies- L
Lions- L

Originally Posted by: wpr 



Flynn had 177 yards 0 TDs 1 INT when he came in cold after Rodgers concussion in Det. After a week of Practice he had 251yards, 3TD, 1NT against New England.

With the receiving options he has, if McCarthy doesn't bonehead the gameplan I don't see why Hundley cannot play well. With the shape of our defense, Well probably isn't enough to win a ton of games, Saints might put up 50 on us sunday. Defenses wont have any tendencies to look for for a few weeks.
The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
TheKanataThrilla
7 years ago
Without Rodgers I think we are like the Colts when Manning missed the entire season. Hope I'm wrong, but...
Barfarn
7 years ago

Flynn had 177 yards 0 TDs 1 INT when he came in cold after Rodgers concussion in Det. After a week of Practice he had 251yards, 3TD, 1NT against New England.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 



And when Rodgers went down in Bear game, Wallace stunk. After a week of practice he was 5 for 5, then went to IR.

Without Rodgers I think we are like the Colts when Manning missed the entire season. Hope I'm wrong, but...

Originally Posted by: TheKanataThrilla 



Only if Hundley or his successors 😂 plays like Painter.

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Read this thrice. This post is unhinged, but its ugly hating agenda behind it can be seen, hell, you could be President!

It’s exciting to see the coaches react, excited to see how Hundley does. So many opinionated FANS with strongly denouncing Hundley’s ability though they have seen no more than 1% of his entire body of work. Boy, ya gotta wonder what’s behind that! And if Hundley fails, we end up 5-11, these chumps will pronounce their genius, how they are such a better GM, a better coach than what 1265’s got. No chumps, if you’re baseless opinionations end up correct, you only transcend from a dumbass to a lucky dumbass.

Did ya see how Lenzy Pipkins played in Minnesota, wasn’t that spectacular? Oh wait, you said you couldn’t watch the game. That says it all right there.

In 2015, when GB started 6-0 you said they’d go undefeated.
In 2016, at mid season you said GB wouldn’t win another game.
In 2017, Rodgers goes down, you “SAY” you’re a huge fan of Hundley; but you cant watch the game.

Your posting record, indicates you’re hyper-emotionally unhinged, seems you’re placing your entire self-worth on GB winning! It is not healthy.
Smokey
7 years ago
If my "region' allows me to watch the GB vs NO contest on Sunday , I'll try to watch as much as I can stand . The AFC game option may just help ease the pain if the Saints build a large , early lead .

I don't have any illusions that the Packers are going to win on Sunday , the question is how badly will they loose . I salute the dreamers that never give up hope , but I'm not going to be eating anything that burns going down and coming back up. [confused]

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