Smokey
7 years ago


[horseow]

UserPostedImage
PackFanWithTwins
7 years ago

The ruling on field was that Elliot's own momentum had him stopped at the 20 before being pushed or carried backward [IE 20="forward progress"]. To re-spot at the 19/overturn, "clear and obvious visual evidence" is required that demonstrates he got to the 19 on his own momentum [Agree that exists] AND that he was pushed or carried back by GB [Which does not exist].

Originally Posted by: Barfarn 



The ruling on the field was that the play was over because his momentum stopped. That is all forward progress is. After that it is no different than any other play whether he had run out of bounds, was down by contact or forward progress stopped.

Player runs out of bounds, play is over, official spots the ball at the 20 because that is where runner went out. Replay shows the runner had extended the ball to the 19. replay result, ball spot changes to the 19.

Runner is tackled in a pile and down by contact. Offical spots the ball at the 20. spot gets challenged, and replay shows the ball was extened to the 19, replay result ball spot changes to the 19.

Why the play was blown dead doesn't matter on the challenge, they are only looking at the position of the ball at that point.


The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
Barfarn
  • Barfarn
  • Senior Member Topic Starter
7 years ago



Originally Posted by: beast 



And Lastly 😂, the camera is clearly behind the 20 yard line [there's 5.5 yards toward goal and 3.5 yards backward in shot].

Here's the math of it: if the camera is above the 21, 8' feet above the ground and Elliot's reach is 4' off the ground the ball that appears to be above the 19 is in reality above the 20.

By this video shot NO ONE can tell you where the ball is at unless you know where the camera is!

Again no clear and convincing video evidence requires the call on field to stand.
7 years ago
Here's a question for you. If a player is running diagonally toward the sideline, and reaches the ball out for that extra yardage, then tucks it back in to his chest as he steps out of bounds, where is the ball marked? At the furthest point or where it was when he stepped out?
PackFanWithTwins
7 years ago

Here's a question for you. If a player is running diagonally toward the sideline, and reaches the ball out for that extra yardage, then tucks it back in to his chest as he steps out of bounds, where is the ball marked? At the furthest point or where it was when he stepped out?

Originally Posted by: TedThompsonsShades 



If not touched by a defender, the ball gets spotted where it was when the runner touches Out of Bounds. to get the extra yardage they would need to be holding the ball extended when their foot touches the white of the OOB.
The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
7 years ago
Well I've asked Pete Dougherty so we'll hopefully have our answer soon. 😂
beast
7 years ago

And Lastly

Originally Posted by: Barfarn 





Uncalled for post beast. The post in question was removed yesterday. No need to bring it up over and over again.

Edited post by wpr.
UserPostedImage
beast
7 years ago

Uncalled for post beast. The post in question was removed yesterday. No need to bring it up over and over again.

Edited post by wpr.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



You're right that was uncalled for. But it's also uncalled for him to continue to quote me on this issue after what the racist thing he was suggesting.

Zero asked us to walk away, I tried to until I saw him continuing to quote me and adding BS behind it. I'll try to walk away again, but I hope I don't see him talking to me again on this issue.
UserPostedImage
wpr
  • wpr
  • Preferred Member
7 years ago

You're right that was uncalled for. But it's also uncalled for him to continue to quote me on this issue after what the racist thing he was suggesting.

Zero asked us to walk away, I tried to until I saw him continuing to quote me and adding BS behind it. I'll try to walk away again, but I hope I don't see him talking to me again on this issue.

Originally Posted by: beast 



I don;t read every line in every post. There are certain people I hardly ever read. If you feel he crosses the line please report it.
UserPostedImage
Fan Shout
packerfanoutwest (12h) : 49ers are underdogs at Packers, ending streak of 36 straight games as favorites
Zero2Cool (20h) : 49ers might be down their QB, DL, TE and LT?
packerfanoutwest (22-Nov) : Jaire Alexander says he has a torn PCL
Zero2Cool (20-Nov) : Even with the context it's ... what?
Mucky Tundra (20-Nov) : Matt LaFleur without context: “I don’t wanna pat you on the butt and you poop in my hand.”
beast (20-Nov) : We brought in a former Packers OL coach to help evaluate OL as a scout
beast (20-Nov) : Jets have been pretty good at picking DL
Zero2Cool (20-Nov) : He landed good players thanks to high draft slot. He isn't good.
Zero2Cool (20-Nov) : He can shove his knowledge up his ass. He knows nothing.
beast (20-Nov) : More knowledge, just like bring in the Jets head coach
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : What? Why? Huh?
beast (19-Nov) : I wonder if the Packers might to try to bring Douglas in through Milt Hendrickson/Ravens connections
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : The Jets fired Joe Douglas, per sources
packerfanoutwest (19-Nov) : Jets are a mess......
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : Pretty sure Jets fired their scouting staff and just pluck former Packers.
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : Jets sign Anders Carlson to their 53.
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : When you cycle the weeks, the total over remains for season. But you get your W/L for that selected week. Confusing.
packerfanoutwest (19-Nov) : the total and percentage are the same as the previous weeks
packerfanoutwest (19-Nov) : the total and percentage are the same as the previous weeks
packerfanoutwest (19-Nov) : the totals are accurate..nrvrtmind
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : I don't follow what you are saying. The totals are not the same as last week.
packerfanoutwest (19-Nov) : ok so then wht are the totals the same as last week?
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : NFL Pick'em is auto updated when NFL Scores tab is clicked
Martha Careful (19-Nov) : The offense was OK. Let's not forget the Bear defense is very very good.
packerfanoutwest (19-Nov) : Who updates the leaderboard on NFLPickem?
beast (19-Nov) : Has the Packers offense been worse since the former Jets coach joined the Packers?
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : Offense gets his ass in gear, this could be good.
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : Backup QB helped with three wins. Special Teams contributed to three wins.
bboystyle (18-Nov) : Lions played outside thats why. They scored 16 and 17 in the only 2 outside games this year
Zero2Cool (18-Nov) : The rest of the NFL is catching up to Packers ... kicking is an issue throughout league
packerfanoutwest (18-Nov) : Packers DL Kenny Clark: We knew 'we were going to block' Bears' game-winning field goal attempt
Zero2Cool (18-Nov) : Lions seem to be throttling everyone, but only (only) got 24 lol maybe the rain is why
Zero2Cool (18-Nov) : Packers vs Lions game doesn't seem so bad.
beast (18-Nov) : Dennis Green "They are what we thought they were, and we let them off the hook!"
Martha Careful (17-Nov) : comment of the day Z2Cool "Bears better than we want to admit. Packers worse than we think. It's facts."
Mucky Tundra (17-Nov) : my worst case scenario: Bears fix their oline and get a coach like Johnson from the Lions and his scheme
Zero2Cool (17-Nov) : Bears get OL fixed amd we might have a problem
buckeyepackfan (17-Nov) : Pretty sure they already have scouting reports on guys who aren't even starting for their college team. The future is now for me.
buckeyepackfan (17-Nov) : I tend to let Gute and Co. Worry about the future.
beast (17-Nov) : That's great news and Packers need to keep upgrading their OL, DL and DBs this off-season, so missing one guy doesn't kill them
beast (17-Nov) : That's great news and Packers need to keep upgrading their OL, DL and DBs this off-season, so missing one guy doesn't kill them
buckeyepackfan (17-Nov) : Jaire and Evans Williams are both ACTIVE! Good news.
Martha Careful (17-Nov) : The badgers really need to change the whole offensive scheme. No draws no screens plus the quarterback is marginal
Cheesey (17-Nov) : If the Badgers had a decent QB, they would have won. The guy can't hit a wide open receiver
Martha Careful (17-Nov) : chop block
Martha Careful (17-Nov) : there was a very questionable job Block call that upon viewing replay was very borderline
beast (17-Nov) : How so? (I didn't watch)
Zero2Cool (17-Nov) : Badgers got hosed vs Oregon
packerfanoutwest (16-Nov) : damn,he hasn't played since week 2
Mucky Tundra (15-Nov) : poor guy can't catch a break
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2024 Packers Schedule
Friday, Sep 6 @ 7:15 PM
Eagles
Sunday, Sep 15 @ 12:00 PM
COLTS
Sunday, Sep 22 @ 12:00 PM
Titans
Sunday, Sep 29 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Sunday, Oct 6 @ 3:25 PM
Rams
Sunday, Oct 13 @ 12:00 PM
CARDINALS
Sunday, Oct 20 @ 12:00 PM
TEXANS
Sunday, Oct 27 @ 12:00 PM
Jaguars
Sunday, Nov 3 @ 3:25 PM
LIONS
Sunday, Nov 17 @ 12:00 PM
Bears
Sunday, Nov 24 @ 3:25 PM
49ERS
Thursday, Nov 28 @ 7:20 PM
DOLPHINS
Thursday, Dec 5 @ 7:15 PM
Lions
Sunday, Dec 15 @ 7:20 PM
Seahawks
Monday, Dec 23 @ 7:15 PM
SAINTS
Sunday, Dec 29 @ 12:00 PM
Vikings
Saturday, Jan 4 @ 11:00 PM
BEARS
Recent Topics
6h / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

22h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

21-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

21-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

21-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

21-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

21-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

20-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

20-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

20-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

20-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

19-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / dfosterf

19-Nov / Featured Content / Zero2Cool

19-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

19-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

Headlines
Copyright © 2006 - 2024 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.