Kevin King is a Starter?

uffda udfa
Veteran Member Topic Starter

7 years ago

Green Bay looks like it will start two new cornerbacks, free agent Davon House (31) and rookie Kevin King (20). -- Rob Demovsky

Mildly amusing to see the word choice used by Demovsky... "looks like it will"...he follows this team as a paid member of the media and a few days before the season opener he isn't exactly sure who the starting CB's are? It ain't because the options are so good it's just hard to make a decision. 😂

So, that was the overhaul? Sign a Jags castoff and start an unimpressive rookie you traded down for? If there's an Achilles's heel to our chances it's this foolish roll of the dice.

It's going to be musical chairs all season long at the position mixing and matching looking like pre season in the regular season.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

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steveishere
Veteran Member

7 years ago

I doubt it. Both Rollins and Randall looked good this offseason. If one of them get hurt it's a different story since it seems like they want to feature the slot CB and someone would have to play outside while one of those guys was in the slot.

uffda udfa
Veteran Member Topic Starter

7 years ago

I'll bet at some point Hawkins and or Pipkins gets a start and I'm not referring to injuries.

Let's keep count of how many different guys line up as starting CBs this season. I'm guessing all of them save for maybe Pipkins.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

isocleas2
Member

7 years ago

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

I'm guessing you gave up on Adams/Perry last year before they broke out. Atleast when you set the bar so low year after year you're constantly pleasently surprised, although after 8 straight playoff trips I'd assume you'd be tired of being wrong by now 🤣

Davon house did fine as a starter until jacksonville switched up their defense, if it wasn't for that he'd likely still be there. He's a man to man defender and thats mostly what the Packers run. The Packers don't have any all-pro CBs but they are pretty strong 1-4, and none of teams have quality CBs when you start looking at the bottom of the roster.

I also like that bit about that unimpressive rookie you traded down for, they traded back from #29 to #33. OMG he must be shit if they traded back 4 spots!!!!!

PS: Hawkins + Pipkins won't start any games barring injuries to starters

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

7 years ago

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

It's because Damarious Randall is covering the slot and Kevin (great name btw) King is next up.

We will have our bumps, but when you buy your Packers Super Bowl Championship in February, you'll have forgotten about this.

PackFanWithTwins
Veteran Member

7 years ago

For the most part it doesn't matter, the success of our secondary is dependent on the defensive front being able to get more consistent pressure than it did last year.

The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!

buckeyepackfan
Veteran Member

7 years ago

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

Quit being sucn a "homer"!
😂😂😂😂

I don't think being listed as a starter means a whole lot in today's game of multiple sub-packages .
I think it's an advantage for The Packers players to be versatile enough to play multiple positions.
On offense they have qb1, and the 5 starting O-lineman as definite starters.
Having 5 wr' s that can play any of the positions, 3 Te's and a Rb who can lineup anywhere on the field, I foresee many a sleepless night for The Packers opposing Defensive Coordinators.

I guess if you tske a look at the number of play each guy played, then you can determine who the starters were for that game.

I was addicted to The Hokey Pokey, but I turned myself around!

uffda udfa
Veteran Member Topic Starter

7 years ago

iso... I don't care about having enough to win the NFCN. I care about having enough to advance to the show.

It's almost funny to think that a top flight QB would have any issue torching any of our CB's. Dak is now no longer a rookie so we're not getting that break this time.

PFWT is somewhat right... that will play a huge role but no DL and OLB combo is going to be disrupting every single throw. Their ability to consistently pressure will be key but it's how they do on 3rd downs and big moments that really matter. That's where we get killed all the time. It's asking a lot for our front 7 to protect the backend every single play. These guys are going to be beaten, badly, over and over and over throughout the season when the rush just isn't there, and that will be quite often.

Instead of defending our CB situation why not just acknowledge it isn't very good? It isn't. I LOVE the offense. That baby is really going to roll as long as everyone is healthy. It's just as tiring as my posts on the subject that this defense is going to be what it is for the 7th season in a row. Think on that... if it holds, 7 straight years of pitiful defense. When will it ever ever change?

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

7 years ago

Instead of defending our CB situation why not just acknowledge it isn't very good? It isn't. I LOVE the offense. That baby is really going to roll as long as everyone is healthy. It's just as tiring as my posts on the subject that this defense is going to be what it is for the 7th season in a row. Think on that... if it holds, 7 straight years of pitiful defense. When will it ever ever change?

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

Because until we've seen at least four games, no one can say we are good or bad without looking foolish. We have no idea what's going to happen. None. It's easier to be negative because there's 31 chances of being right. It takes balls to say you're gonna be the one champion at the end.

We wait. Watch. Evaluate what you see. Preseason is bullcoocoo

uffda udfa
Veteran Member Topic Starter

7 years ago

#10

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

Even if it isn't 7 straight bad years of defense, it's already been 6. I don't care if it looks or sounds foolish. This D is bad, has been bad and is likely to be bad again. No matter the new additions and the old guard, our CB situation is abysmal. To say it's much better than last year when we got torched is being overly optimistic because NOBODY has seen King play in a regular season game. I saw him in the preseason and read the reports on him. NONE OF THEM WERE ENCOURAGING. So, unless he magically becomes a player overnight, it doesn't look good for his chances and House was never anything when he was here so is he all of a sudden going to be a much improved player under the same DC he wasn't before? Where are the fresh ideas on D? It's the same old stale scheme and we have less than stars at CB to execute it.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

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