Browns release CB Joe Haden

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

7 years ago

I believe he was a 1st round pick in 2007 and has been one helluva cover guy throughout his career. I doubt with what we invested into our secondary we sign him. I would like to bring him in just to see.

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steveishere
Veteran Member

7 years ago

His last two seasons haven't been any better than Gunter or Randall played last year and the fact they released him makes me think he's probably not back to what he was this year. If he'd sign for something like what we gave House I would do it for a prayer but this guy isn't the answer to any secondary issues.

PackFanWithTwins
Veteran Member

7 years ago

According to this article. http://www.cleveland.com/pluto/index.ssf/2017/08/cleveland_browns_joe_haden_trade.html

He missed 13 games over the last two season, 10 for a Major concussion, had surgery on both groin areas this last offseason,

Football Outsiders

"After a horrendous injury-plagued 2015, Haden ranked 76th out of 87 cornerbacks in adjusted yards per pass in 2016. Quarterbacks certainly aren't afraid anymore, as Haden's estimated target percentage has been over 20 percent in the last three seasons."

ProFootballFocus

"2016 was Haden's worst year as a pro. He gave up a league-high six touchdowns. He allowed 1.48 yards per coverage snap, the league's 12th highest among cornerbacks."

"He has allowed 1.61 yards per coverage snap and a passer rating of 104.6, the highest among Browns cornerbacks with at least 30 coverage snaps."

I think we are better off working and developing our youth, and maybe considering Haden if we need to replace somebody because of injury. Do we really want another CB with major concussion issues after losing Sammy.

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DarkaneRules
Veteran Member

7 years ago

No no no no no

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