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7 years ago

Another Pro Football Hall of Fame class was announced on Saturday night Canton, so it's time for my annual early August rant. I wrote last year about LeRoy Butler not getting the respect he deserves from the voters. Well, thanks to former Bronco Terrell Davis' induction, this year's post will be about Sterling Sharpe. TheContinue Reading›› 

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While I would love for Sterling to be in the Hall, 7 years isn't long enough to be included among the all time greats. I can't help it if someone else gets in after only 7 seasons. That doesn't make it right.
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isocleas2
7 years ago
On one hand I agree, 7 seasons is just too short of a sample size. On the other hand he was dominate with shit QBs, the couple years there was actually an offense to take some of the weight off his shoulders he was arguably the most dominate WR in the league.

Sharpe + Nick Collins both played HoF careers, they just lack a few more years of playing in the league to fatten up the resume.
sschind
7 years ago

While I would love for Sterling to be in the Hall, 7 years isn't long enough to be included among the all time greats. I can't help it if someone else gets in after only 7 seasons. That doesn't make it right.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



I gotta agree with you WPR. He was dominant and if it were not for the injury I think he would be in already and we would be listing him as one of the top 5 WRs of all time. A great career unfortunately cut way to short and maybe a few years too short of the HOF.

One thing I hate as a fan is when teams need 6 yards for the first and they throw it 4-5 yards down the field. Sterling Sharpe was the only WR I recall watching where I actually didn't mind it so much. It was still frustrating but it seemed like he made the extra yard or two as often as not.

While I agree that 7 years is not long enough it is the new benchmark and because of that Megatron should be a shoe in. Voters can't say his career was too short now.
Zero2Cool
7 years ago
I still don't know how Gale Sayers got into the Hall of Fame. He played in less than 70 games and his statistics weren't anything special for his era. Terrell Davis at least topped 2,000 yards and won league MVP and pair of Super Bowls. Sterling Sharpe argument I would make is them two and Sharpe averaging over 100 receptions and 14 TD's his last three seasons in the NFL.

If you're going to let Sayers and Davis in, I don't see how you keep Sharpe out.

Which makes me wonder ... what constitutes a Hall of Fame career?
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7 years ago

I still don't know how Gale Sayers got into the Hall of Fame. He played in less than 70 games and his statistics weren't anything special for his era. Terrell Davis at least topped 2,000 yards and won league MVP and pair of Super Bowls. Sterling Sharpe argument I would make is them two and Sharpe averaging over 100 receptions and 14 TD's his last three seasons in the NFL.

If you're going to let Sayers and Davis in, I don't see how you keep Sharpe out.

Which makes me wonder ... what constitutes a Hall of Fame career?

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I think all 3 belong in the Hall of the Pretty Damn Good. Of the 3 Sayers is the closest to making an argument for dominance in his time. He was All Pro 5 times in his 7 years. (Sharpe and Davis only 3 each.) I ignore Pro Bowl as it is a more flawed voting system.

Then again the NFL Hall seems to have a lower admittance requirement than the MLB.
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Zero2Cool
7 years ago

I think all 3 belong in the Hall of the Pretty Damn Good. Of the 3 Sayers is the closest to making an argument for dominance in his time. He was All Pro 5 times in his 7 years. (Sharpe and Davis only 3 each.) I ignore Pro Bowl as it is a more flawed voting system.

Then again the NFL Hall seems to have a lower admittance requirement than the MLB.

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Sayers had a lot less competition during his time than both Sharpe and Davis. That explains the slim margin of more All Pro's. Ahman Green was more of a dominate force than Sayers.
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Cheesey
7 years ago
Good point about Sayers, Zero.
Another thing that might play into this was the fact that Sharpe was a real jerk to the media.
So that MIGHT have some bearing.
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PackFanWithTwins
7 years ago
No, he probably would have if he had been able to continue playing, but unfortunately he wasn't. If I look at the WR who played the same time as Sterling, which IMO would be his competition for the HOF I can't put his career above any of them and IMO there are only so many spots. Jerry Rice, Tim Brown, Cris Carter, Andre Reed, Art Monk, Michael Irving. The idea that he had shit QB's is beyond absurd also and that he was so much more dominate than all the other WR I listed is also false.

Losing Sterling might have been the best thing for the Packers. It forced Favre to look for others to depend on in the receiving game.
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Smokey
7 years ago
I have heard it said , that unless a player is already considered a HOF "Lock" , then his HOF consideration can heavily depend upon the nominating presentation and who speaks on their behalf . An influential respected presenter that makes an impressive case , can (and has) put a person as they say , "over the hump" in the final vote .

Sharp was a brilliant WR and while not a "Lock" , if he had a high powered presenter to make his case for him , perhaps then he just may have a better chance at the HOF . [thumbup]

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Poppa San
7 years ago

I have heard it said , that unless a player is already considered a HOF "Lock" , then his HOF consideration can heavily depend upon the nominating presentation and who speaks on their behalf . An influential respected presenter that makes an impressive case , can (and has) put a person as they say , "over the hump" in the final vote .

Sharp was a brilliant WR and while not a "Lock" , if he had a high powered presenter to make his case for him , perhaps then he just may have a better chance at the HOF . [thumbup]

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