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7 years ago

Mike McCarthy reiterates importance of Packers' run game

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This is so funny. As long as Mike is coach and Aaron is the QB GB will not run the ball to any real significant degree. My guess is they run about 40% of the time which will be 400 carries this year.
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beast
7 years ago

This is so funny. As long as Mike is coach and Aaron is the QB GB will not run the ball to any real significant degree. My guess is they run about 40% of the time which will be 400 carries this year.

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Since when is 40% not real significant?
In the last four years, the Packers have never gotten to 44% running plays, but they're been in the top 15 Rushing Play Percentage   in 3 of the last 4 years (2017, with all the training camp RBs going down was the exception year). So in comparison, MM is running the ball a larger percentage than most of his rivals (when he's got a good healthy RB from training camp).


Also MM could be talking about quality of runs too... as the 2016 Packers were 8-1 when Lacy or Montgomery averaged 4.4 yards in a regular season game but 2-5 when their average were held under 4.4 yards. The Colts game was 1 in 8-1, where Packers got rocked... and the Eagles and last Vikings game were the 2 in 2-5... and they loaded up to stop the run (at least the Vikings did), forcing Rodgers to carry the team... and with that Rodgers dominated them with 73%+ completion percentage.



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7 years ago

Since when is 40% not real significant?
In the last four years, the Packers have never gotten to 44% running plays, but they're been in the top 15 Rushing Play Percentage   in 3 of the last 4 years (2017, with all the training camp RBs going down was the exception year). So in comparison, Mike McCarthy is running the ball a larger percentage than most of his rivals (when he's got a good healthy RB from training camp).


Also Mike McCarthy could be talking about quality of runs too... as the 2016 Packers were 8-1 when Lacy or Montgomery averaged 4.4 yards in a regular season game but 2-5 when their average were held under 4.4 yards. The Colts game was 1 in 8-1, where Packers got rocked... and the Eagles and last Vikings game were the 2 in 2-5... and they loaded up to stop the run (at least the Vikings did), forcing Rodgers to carry the team... and with that Rodgers dominated them with 73%+ completion percentage.


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Apparently McCarthy and Rob Demovsky don;t think so. Every year McCarthy more or less tells everyone that the Packers are going to do a better job of running the ball than they did the yer before. Perhaps a 40-60 split is adequate with the way the NFL is set up these days. But there are a whole lot of games during the year where it is 30-70 and a whole lot of games were they get next to no yards per carry except for a few plays.

It would be nice to get a 45-55 split. It rests the defense. It doesn't force Aaron to carry the whole team by throwing the ball 60 times.



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7 years ago
It would be nice to not even care about runs or pass counts and just focus on making sure the other team has less points than you. -- that's towards Mike McCarthy --- I get the impression he pays too much attention to those things. He says stats are for losers, yet he constantly brings up stats. If you are up by 16 points and passing is moving the chains, you don't go run the ball to get a certain split or because you think it eats the clock. You keep doing what works. You keep adding points.

Screw splits. Could not care less about them.
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7 years ago

It would be nice to not even care about runs or pass counts and just focus on making sure the other team has less points than you. -- that's towards Mike McCarthy --- I get the impression he pays too much attention to those things. He says stats are for losers, yet he constantly brings up stats. If you are up by 16 points and passing is moving the chains, you don't go run the ball to get a certain split or because you think it eats the clock. You keep doing what works. You keep adding points.

Screw splits. Could not care less about them.

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HOlmgren considered those short screen passes to the RBs as part of the running game.
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