Wade
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12 years ago

It was the OL. The only year A Green was "elite" was 2003 and note that we had not one, not two, but 3 RBs who averaged over 5 ypc. That's no coincidence.

Thus I maintain we need a stronger OL.

As for less running plays, 🇲🇲 is just talking about the total number of plays. You can have only 10 running plays in your playbook but if you're good at all 10, you'll be way better than a team with 100 running plays that only do well with 2 of them consistently.

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer 



Agree with last. But ...

What 2 running plays do the Packers do well consistently?

1. Rodgers scrambling.
2. ?????

10 might be a reach.


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Zero2Cool
12 years ago
2003 Mike Sherman said the Packers used only six running plays. Everyone knew what they were, and still couldn't stop them. I miss that Power O style that the DL just got dominated, either by pass block or run block.
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nerdmann
12 years ago

It was the OL. The only year A Green was "elite" was 2003 and note that we had not one, not two, but 3 RBs who averaged over 5 ypc. That's no coincidence.

Thus I maintain we need a stronger OL.

As for less running plays, 🇲🇲 is just talking about the total number of plays. You can have only 10 running plays in your playbook but if you're good at all 10, you'll be way better than a team with 100 running plays that only do well with 2 of them consistently.

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer 



The OL was very good, but so was Green. Raw power, speed, quickness and he could catch. Tended to fumble earlier in the season. Hung onto the ball better as the season wore on.
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Dexter_Sinister
12 years ago
Over 200 yards rushing in a NFCCG were not enough to win for Sherman.

I would rather have a mediocre running game that won than a great one that didn't.

Lombardi only had 6 running plays. He also had a very efficient QB and the one thing that really won games.

Passer Rating Differential.
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zombieslayer
12 years ago

Over 200 yards rushing in a NFCCG were not enough to win for Sherman.

I would rather have a mediocre running game that won than a great one that didn't.

Lombardi only had 6 running plays. He also had a very efficient QB and the one thing that really won games.

Passer Rating Differential.

Originally Posted by: Dexter_Sinister 



Yup. If I'm not mistaken, we were on the losing side of passer rating differential against the Giants.
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rabidgopher04
12 years ago

Over 200 yards rushing in a NFCCG were not enough to win for Sherman.

I would rather have a mediocre running game that won than a great one that didn't.

Lombardi only had 6 running plays. He also had a very efficient QB and the one thing that really won games.

Passer Rating Differential.

Originally Posted by: Dexter_Sinister 



You've been beating that drum all season. 🙂
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gbguy20
12 years ago

I'd love to see them run screens, but only if they do it well. For instance, I hate it when it looks like they're throwing the ball to the guy in the other jersey.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



imagine if we had the screen game now that we did when ahman was around


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Dexter_Sinister
12 years ago

Yup. If I'm not mistaken, we were on the losing side of passer rating differential against the Giants.

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer 



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