buckeyepackfan
7 years ago
Were talking about 2 7th rnd draft picks here.
Btw in a draft that was loaded with rb's.

Every year there is talk about a guy not making it to the PS
90% of the time they do.
Every team has their guys they either drafted or signed as udfa's.
At the beginning of the year most teams keep their guys because they have been through the rookie camps, ota's and pre-season.
Once you get them there, then you can protect them by offering more money if another team comes sniffing around.
Plenty of RB's on the roster.
2 will end up on PS.
Packers decide to keep 3 on the final 53, Kerridge will be gone.
3rd RB most likely would be inactive.
Kerridge has proven value on ST's
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beast
7 years ago
Yeah it feels like every single year, the fans overrate the Packers talent/depth at WR. As far as I can remember, no WR has been claimed off Packers waivers under Ted Thompson. And there have been very few like Charles Johnson to be signed off the PS.

There does seem to be a great competition on the WR depth chart… but that’s mainly because no one has stepped up or stood out, more so than them being clearly talented.

I’m hoping WR Davis is steps up and is able to be that speed merchant WR this year.

Here's something else we have not had a chance to factor in- With so many QBs coming out in the draft next year, the odds of trading Hundley for any significant draft pick has dropped to almost zero.

Originally Posted by: wpr 

I’ve been thinking about that, because I’ve been wanting to project that Hundley has a great preseason and gets traded… but other than the Jets, 49ers and Browns… I don’t see any teams that would clearly be interested…

But the Jets seem to be purposely tanking, the Browns drafted a QB with a 2nd round pick, and the 49ers drafted a guy with a 3rd round pick, and seem to be waiting either for Kirk Cousin next year, or grab another QB in the draft if they’re not happy with the 3rd round pick. No teams were ever named in the possible Hundley trade, but I was assuming it was the Giants, because they got a head coach that knows Mike McCarthy and his QBs… and Eli’s acting old.

I think Hundley’s trade value is better than nothing… but you’re right… unless he plays down right amazing… it doesn’t look like he’s going to get the Packers that 1st round pick he was wanting. But some team is going to want an already developed guy… not one that still needs to be developed… assuming he looks amazing during the preseason or in a real game.
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beast
7 years ago

Were talking about 2 7th rnd draft picks here.
Btw in a draft that was loaded with rb's.

Every year there is talk about a guy not making it to the PS
90% of the time they do.

Plenty of RB's on the roster.
2 will end up on PS.
Packers decide to keep 3 on the final 53, Kerridge will be gone.
3rd RB most likely would be inactive.
Kerridge has proven value on ST's

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 



Jones was a 5th round draft pick, and I believe Mays might have the highest ceiling of any of the drafted RB... but lowest floor too, as he was only able to play to his full potential in one year of college.

2 RBs isn't plenty... especially when considering, RBs is often the most injury prone position on offense (or so it seems to me)... Cobb isn't a RB... and they seemed to refuse to use Rip as a RB last year when they could have (and maybe should have). IF... IF... they are willing to play Rip as a RB, this might be a different story... but Rip at times (before Monty) looked like the best RB option they had, and they refused to use him there.

Kerridge has proven he can add value on STs... of course he was only on STs because of injuries to DBs and LBers which kept them off of STs... and the Packers were dead last in kick off coverage because of it. Also Kerridge is a better run blocker and better true FB than Rip... or at least was last year.

I REALLY wanted to see Kerridge at FB and Rip at RB last year... and I don't think they ever it. Though they did try some stupid idea with Rip, Kerridge and Spriggs all playing FB at the same time... horrible idea... hello... just target the backfield... full out blitz... only one target out of the backfield.
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beast
7 years ago

Beast's TOO EARLY Mock 53 Man Roster (mid July)

Originally Posted by: beast 

I did a final Mock 53 Man Roster before Training Camp starts... I'll just list the differences between this one and the mid July one.

I kept OG/C Amichia over OLB Gilbert - In reality, I thinking it's gonna be on the rookie RBs, but I can't decide which one, and just easier to release Gilbert... especially since Gilbert and/or Calvin might make it to the PS and be ready to be called up if we needed them.

I resign LS Goode over LS Hart - It happened last year... and could happen again, the Packers cut down the to 53 man roster with no LS on the roster... and in a day or two they resign Goode and release another players (like OLB Gilbert or RB).

I questioned if they might do the same thing as they did with the punter last year... signing a punter than was in training camp with another team... but I've struggled finding a punting competion I felt would be interesting and just kept P Vogel.
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nerdmann
7 years ago

I did a final Mock 53 Man Roster before Training Camp starts... I'll just list the differences between this one and the mid July one.

I kept OG/C Amichia over OLB Gilbert - In reality, I thinking it's gonna be on the rookie RBs, but I can't decide which one, and just easier to release Gilbert... especially since Gilbert and/or Calvin might make it to the PS and be ready to be called up if we needed them.

I resign LS Goode over LS Hart - It happened last year... and could happen again, the Packers cut down the to 53 man roster with no LS on the roster... and in a day or two they resign Goode and release another players (like OLB Gilbert or RB).

I questioned if they might do the same thing as they did with the punter last year... signing a punter than was in training camp with another team... but I've struggled finding a punting competion I felt would be interesting and just kept P Vogel.

Originally Posted by: beast 



Gilbert and Calvin over Jayrone. Jayrone sticks if Biegel is PUP'd. Also Michael Clark makes Richard Rodgers a cap casualty. Converted basketball player is 6'6" and runs a 4.53. My vote for this year's Jeff Janis. Gets a couple years on special teams to learn route running from Martellus and blocking from Lance Kendricks. Maybe he'll end up showing something.

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beast
7 years ago

Gilbert and Calvin over Jayrone. Jayrone sticks if Biegel is PUP'd. Also Michael Clark makes Richard Rodgers a cap casualty. Converted basketball player is 6'6" and runs a 4.53. My vote for this year's Jeff Janis. Gets a couple years on special teams to learn route running from Martellus and blocking from Lance Kendricks. Maybe he'll end up showing something.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



I believe Jayrone is a lock, because if nothing else his STs play combined with the fact they normally keep 6 and he could be in the top 4 right now.

Michael Clark is 217lbs... that's not really TE weight... especially at 6'6" which probably means he's tall and quite skinny. Also according to Packers.com the 2016 season was the first time Michael Clark played organized football since his freshman year of high school. He's raw as can be... he's a long term project, which is why he wasn't drafted despite his amazing track numbers for his size.
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nerdmann
7 years ago



Michael Clark is 217lbs... that's not really TE weight... especially at 6'6" which probably means he's tall and quite skinny. Also according to Packers.com the 2016 season was the first time Michael Clark played organized football since his freshman year of high school. He's raw as can be... he's a long term project, which is why he wasn't drafted despite his amazing track numbers for his size.

Originally Posted by: beast 



He could easily add another 15.
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beast
7 years ago

Packers decide to keep 3 on the final 53, Kerridge will be gone.
3rd RB most likely would be inactive.
Kerridge has proven value on ST's

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 


I've heard a couple of things about Kerridge making plays in training camp, and I haven't heard a thing about Ripkowski in training camp. I wondered if Kerridge might be able to challenge Ripkowski for the starting FB spot... and there might only be one FB spot.

But some have said Kerridge was a better pure blocker last year, if he improves in other areas he might be able to push Ripkowski some.
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buckeyepackfan
7 years ago
Trevor Davis and Jeff Janis are 2 of the fastest receivers in The NFL.
Either can stretch the field.
Can we please look forward.
Janis was a very raw 7th round pick, he has survived by becoming one of the best gunners in football.
Maybe just maybe it all comes together for him this (his 4th) year.

Had Trevor Davis not fumbled against (Houston?), and got into Mike's doghouse he might have had a better year.

I still think Janis makes it and Davis will get more chances and show he is worth the 2nd round pick. Only his second year.

Not sure why everyone wants to rush these rookie rb's onto the roster.
They aren't going anywhere but The Packers practice squad.
One of them will join Montgomery, Ripowski, Kerridge and yes Randall Cobb as the change of pace rb/wr on the final 53.
Two will make the Practice Squad and get themselves ready in case of injury.

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nerdmann
7 years ago

Trevor Davis and Jeff Janis are 2 of the fastest receivers in The NFL.
Either can stretch the field.
Can we please look forward.
Janis was a very raw 7th round pick, he has survived by becoming one of the best gunners in football.
Maybe just maybe it all comes together for him this (his 4th) year.

Had Trevor Davis not fumbled against (Houston?), and got into Mike's doghouse he might have had a better year.

I still think Janis makes it and Davis will get more chances and show he is worth the 2nd round pick. Only his second year.

Not sure why everyone wants to rush these rookie rb's onto the roster.
They aren't going anywhere but The Packers practice squad.
One of them will join Montgomery, Ripowski, Kerridge and yes Randall Cobb as the change of pace rb/wr on the final 53.
Two will make the Practice Squad and get themselves ready in case of injury.

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 



Janis (unlike Max McCaffrey, 6'2" 4.43) isn't even getting reps anymore.


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