beast
7 years ago

Spoke to an NFL agent and asked him why he thinks it took so long for Adams to sign.
He gave a theory as to why and a review of the rookie contracts signed over the last few years supports this. But its pretty complicated and wouldn't fit on a bumper sticker.

Originally Posted by: Barfarn 



So you're humble bragging that you got to talk with an NFL agent! šŸ˜Ž
And got to ask him a question that we're wondering about! šŸ˜
But you won't tell us what he said because it's too long? šŸ˜ž

Just because someone complained about "dry , data filled , long-winded " doesn't mean you should stop sharing what you have learned or what you know just because it's long.

Sharing idea possibilities and/or educating each other is part of the process and part of the reason some have suggested that the Wisconsin fans are some of the best football fans, which I was surprised to hear being talked about, since it was said at different times at both Rams and Chiefs training camps, which I guess was being held in Wisconsin at the time.

BTW: He said he's never heard of an "averages deal."

Originally Posted by: Barfarn 


Of course you wouldn't, because that phraseology (on my part) was horrible. There are no averages deals other than franchise and transition tag.

What I meant (and should of said) was verbal agreement to wait for the other deals first and review them before completely finishing their deal. But I take short cuts sometimes and wrongly said "averages deals".
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Cheesey
7 years ago
True, I don't know who's fault it truely was.
One group of millionaires trying to one up another group of millionaires.
True it doesn't affect my life. It will continue the same either way....boring as heck with not much I can do about it.
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Barfarn
7 years ago

So you're humble bragging that you got to talk with an NFL agent! šŸ˜Ž
And got to ask him a question that we're wondering about! šŸ˜
But you won't tell us what he said because it's too long? šŸ˜ž

Just because someone complained about "dry , data filled , long-winded " doesn't mean you should stop sharing what you have learned or what you know just because it's long.

Sharing idea possibilities and/or educating each other is part of the process and part of the reason some have suggested that the Wisconsin fans are some of the best football fans, which I was surprised to hear being talked about, since it was said at different times at both Rams and Chiefs training camps, which I guess was being held in Wisconsin at the time.


Of course you wouldn't, because that phraseology (on my part) was horrible. There are no averages deals other than franchise and transition tag.

What I meant (and should of said) was verbal agreement to wait for the other deals first and review them before completely finishing their deal. But I take short cuts sometimes and wrongly said "averages deals".

Originally Posted by: beast 



I am not you! Don't think like you! And would NEVER act like you! EVER! So Please, Carnac, stick to the subject matter even if you believe you have permission to do other stuff.

Actually discussed Adams with an agent, a "retired" agent and someone who did it for a short period of time and would never confine the subject to your phraseology unless it was a term of art in the industry. I reserve such petty logic errors nasty dishonest type arguments for those that call themselves the WI sports expert fans [rolling eyes].

And to be exact, these three guys were musing about how funny it would be if every team waited for others to sign, so they could all average. Not that I presented it directly to them, but your thought was fully represented in the discussion, it was laughed at because, well, because its pretty stupid. At least the real "experts" think so.

Now to get the real answer you'd have to have both 1265 and Adams' agent tell the same story; because even if you heard from one you couldn't take it to the bank. And they said Ball/Ted ain't talking, EVER. FYI, the speculation ranged from personal [Adams just became a new father a few weeks ago] to several other non cash related contract terms; some of which are being pushed back on by the NFLPA, so they could have been the culprits of the delay as well. But, one thing we know for certain, it wasn't about an amount of money or averaging.

PS: The suggestion has been made that the thing that makes loud-mouthed fans revel in their self-professed expertise and get all kiddy-shitty when their ideas are rebutted involves contamination of the WI's aquifers.
beast
7 years ago

I am not you! Don't think like you! And would NEVER act like you! EVER! So Please, Carnac, stick to the subject matter even if you believe you have permission to do other stuff.

Originally Posted by: Barfarn 

Seriously? This is suppose to about Packers and fans, and sharing knowledge and you're getting offended and making things personal for no reason?

Please stop being offended... you dropped that you got to talk with agents... that's pretty awesome. You drew attention to something you should be proud of! That's a humble brag and again, awesome.

As far as sticking to the subject, it's kind of hard to when you're being personally attacked. Which I'm assuming you felt personally attack for some reason? Which is why I'm assuming you responded like you did including clearly getting off subject yourself and sadly the mods are going to lock this thread too because it's getting personal. šŸ˜ž
But none of my post was meant as an insult to you!

And to be exact, these three guys were musing about how funny it would be if every team waited for others to sign, so they could all average. Not that I presented it directly to them, but your thought was fully represented in the discussion, it was laughed at because, well, because its pretty stupid. At least the real "experts" think so.

Originally Posted by: Barfarn 


Yeah if EVERY team did that, it would be pretty stupid, because they would all be waiting on each other. OF course, I never you're wrongly implying that I said that EVERY team SEEMED to do it, when I just offered the theory that one team SEEMED to do it.

Now to get the real answer you'd have to have both 1265 and Adams' agent tell the same story; because even if you heard from one you couldn't take it to the bank. And they said Ball/Ted ain't talking, EVER. FYI, the speculation ranged from personal [Adams just became a new father a few weeks ago] to several other non cash related contract terms; some of which are being pushed back on by the NFLPA, so they could have been the culprits of the delay as well. But, one thing we know for certain, it wasn't about an amount of money or averaging.

Originally Posted by: Barfarn 


GREAT INFO! And this is what I was trying to encourage you to post, so THANK YOU!
I'm going to applauded your post for this part.
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Bigbyfan
7 years ago

You really do blow a lot of smoke šŸ‘…

But seriously, what's up with all the passive aggressive smack talk?

Originally Posted by: beast 



I think you have a secret admirer.
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