Zero2Cool
7 years ago
I can't remember the exact numbers but in playoffs losses something like 36 points given up is hard to defend.

By standard statistical measures, the defense of the Green Bay Packers had its struggles last year. Green Bay finished 22nd in overall defense, 21st in points allowed and were 31st against the pass as injuries to the secondary led to opponents finding room to move the football. The Packers did finish as the eighth best...

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PackFanWithTwins
7 years ago
Sure they were 8th in rushing yards given up. But they were 6th in opponents rushing attempts. 14th in yards per attempt.

That 8th rank is a result of having one of the worst pass defenses, and an offense that ranked 4th in Time of possession.

You are not going to give up many rushing yards when you offense holds onto the ball longer and opponents can through against you.


If I was going to look for a defensive stat to hang my hat on it would be that they ranked 5th in the percentage of opponents possessions that ended up scoring.
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Cheesey
7 years ago
To me, their defensive performance was OFFENSIVE.

Had they had a decent defense, we could have at least looked respectable in the NFC title game. As it was, we were destroyed on that side of the ball.
Look at many of our other games during the season, where our offense shined, got a lead, and then barely hung on because of the defense messing up. The Dallas playoff game is a perfect example of that. We almost lost because of the defense not being able to stop Dallas.
Without a super offense, we would have lost that game.
We NEED a defense that can keep us in games when the offense isn't "super".
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Smokey
7 years ago
As a leader on GB's Defense , I can understand Mike Daniels standing up for his comrades . Also , he may be the type that sees the glass as half full . For him to speak ill of his team would be hurtful and he could not do that .

In this case I'm sure he was sincere and meant just what he said . [cool]

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Cheesey
7 years ago
I agree.....he's NOT going to say "We SUCKED!"
However, I would HOPE that behind closed doors he would get on his guys to perform better.
Otherwise he has his head in the sand, ignoring the obvious.
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yooperfan
7 years ago

I agree.....he's NOT going to say "We SUCKED!"
However, I would HOPE that behind closed doors he would get on his guys to perform better.
Otherwise he has his head in the sand, ignoring the obvious.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 



I have to believe that Mike Daniels is not a guy that would bury his head in the sand.
I'm betting that behind closed doors he is not only vocal but physically challenging as well.

beast
7 years ago

I have to believe that Mike Daniels is not a guy that would bury his head in the sand.
I'm betting that behind closed doors he is not only vocal but physically challenging as well.

Originally Posted by: yooperfan 



Oh yeah, it's been said that Daniels annoys the heck out of others (to put it nicely) when the Packers lose.

And I believe their have been articles where DT Kenny Clark talked about Daniels verbally pushing and challenging the young DL to step up.

Honest, with the Packers keeping Guion after his last suspension trouble, I have wondered if maybe they wanted Guion around because maybe he's the one that best handles an upset Daniels... fyi, this is complete and total speculation on my part... but listening to other stories on NFL Network, about past players, it sounds like coaches often use position mates to help steer players that are hard to handle. And there have been some comments about Daniels pissing off some of his defensive teammates after losses.

I figured Guion had to be good for the locker room if they kept him around after his latest suspension... if they keep him still after this Hawaii arrest then they must REALLY like in the locke room for some reason.
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isocleas2
7 years ago
Well I believe if he's suspended for the year by the league the Packers will not owe him anything until he returns from that. So while I think he no longer really has a place on this team they have no rush to release him besides the bad press, if it infact has an overall morale boost all the better.
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Zero2Cool (15h) : I just checked. What tie breaker?
bboystyle (15h) : yes its possible but unlikely. If we do get the 5th, we face the NFCS winner
Zero2Cool (15h) : Ahh, ok.
bboystyle (15h) : yes due to tie breaker
Zero2Cool (15h) : I mean, unlikely, yes, but mathematically, 5th is possible by what I'm reading.
Zero2Cool (15h) : If Vikings lose out, Packers win out, Packers get 5th, right?
bboystyle (15h) : Minny isnt going to lose out so 5th seed is out of the equation. We are playing for the 6th or 7th seed which makes no difference
Mucky Tundra (16h) : beast, the ad revenue goes to the broadcast company but they gotta pay to air the game on their channel/network
beast (16h) : If we win tonight the game is still relative in terms of 5th, 6th or 7th seed... win and it's 5th or 6th, lose and it's 6th or 7th
beast (16h) : Mucky, I thought the ad revenue went to the broadcasting companies or the NFL, at least not directly
Zero2Cool (16h) : I think the revenue share is moot, isn't it? That's the CBA an Salary Cap handling that.
bboystyle (17h) : i mean game becomes irrelevant if we win tonight. Just a game where we are trying to play spoilers to Vikings chance at the #1 seed
Mucky Tundra (17h) : beast, I would guess ad revenue from more eyes watching tv
Zero2Cool (17h) : I would think it would hurt the home team because people would have to cancel last minute maybe? i dunno
beast (17h) : I agree that it's BS for fans planning on going to the game. But how does it bring in more money? I'm guessing indirectly?
packerfanoutwest (17h) : bs on flexing the game....they do it for the $$league$$, not the hometown fans
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beast (20h) : Barry seemed to get too conservative against new QBs, Hafley doesn't have that issue
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beast (21h) : Saying no to the 6th lock.
beast (21h) : No, with the Commanders beating the Eagles, Packers could have a good chance of 6th or 7th unless the win out
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beast (21h) : We already have told you... if Packers lose all their games (they won't, but if they did), and Buccaneers and Falcons win all theirs
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Zero2Cool (21h) : Falcons, Buccaneers would need to win final two games.
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