DakotaT
7 years ago

And THAT isn't a "personal attack?"
So...I'm "cruel" to gays and native Americans? Tell me, oh wise one, where is ONE BIT of proof of the B.S. you state about me? Because I call sin SIN?
And native Americans....where did I say ANYTHING that was cruel to them??? I have had personal contact with native Americans. One of my Dad's good friends was a Lac Du Flambeau Indian, and we visited him for several years before he died. We spent several summers at his home and cottage on lake Pokegama. So, once again, you label me, with NO PROOF of the slander you throw around all the time.
YOU are the unaccepting person. If someone doesn't "goose step" with you and agree with everything you say, you just close your mind and ignore anything they say. Even if deep down you know you are wrong.
So much for the "loving, caring, all accepting liberal", hey?

You just label me, so that you can ignore any good points I make.
That's what I love about liberalism.....all the nasty things they write about me, they do all the time!
I'm unaccepting and judgemental.......read your own posts, then look in the mirror and repeat what you say about me to yourself!
You complain about the chip on my shoulder, but ignore the BEAM on YOURS.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 



I don't care what you call it. You people drew a line in the sand a long time ago, all the way back to the election of Bill Clinton. You just all got a lot uglier when Obama was elected.

Who cares if you or your Dad had an Indian friend, you have absolutely no problem with the near genocide of their race and the theft of their land, and you whine like a little bitch about the money they make with their casinos. Isn't my fault your a walking hypocrite, I just really enjoy pointing it out.
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Cheesey
7 years ago
Again, the pot calling the kettle black. YOU are the racist. You prove it every time you post. You HATE white people, and think ALL of them (except you, of course) are evil race hating people.

Did I EVER say I had no problem with how the Indians were treated? No....because you never even bothered to ask me how I felt about it. Once again you never bother to seek out any FACTS, you just lump anyone that doesn't agree with everything you say as an evil person.
YOU are the real hypocrite.
What the white people did to them was HORRIBLE. Just like it was HORRIBLE that Africans were brought here and made slaves. I NEVER said I was "OK" with ANY of that. Yet you constantly slander me, because you can't deal with the fact that I can be a conservative and NOT think those things were ok. It goes against all you believe. Or all your liberal leaders TELL you to believe.
Why don't you try thinking for yourself for a change? Or is that too hard for you?

As far as the casinos, I don't agree with them. NOT because they are run by Indians, but because of the lives that are ruined by them. NOTHING to do with race.

You always say "YOU PEOPLE". You take a generalization of what you THINK I believe, then ignore anything I say. It makes it easier for you, as you don't have to actually THINK for yourself.

You show your lack of intelligence when you post things like you do.
Why don't you try asking how I feel about things BEFORE you spout off your ignorance?
(I know....that would be asking too much)
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Zero2Cool
7 years ago

You always say "YOU PEOPLE". You take a generalization of what you THINK I believe, then ignore anything I say. It makes it easier for you, as you don't have to actually THINK for yourself.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 



After read his "you people", I had a lot to say and then realized, I have better things to do than respond. I wiped my ass and went back to work. (Yes, I washed my hands!)
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DakotaT
7 years ago
"You people" means all of you who vote Republican; but then don't take any responsibility for what the politicians you elect do in office. Of course, I'm a reasonable person, please explain the latest vote to kick people off health care so they can give more tax credits the wealthy. Something "you people" are all very proud of I'm sure.
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DakotaT
7 years ago

After read his "you people", I had a lot to say and then realized, I have better things to do than respond. I wiped my ass and went back to work. (Yes, I washed my hands!)

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjf9NiWp-nTAhUKxYMKHb65AVAQyCkIKTAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D0IfzRf1DtxQ&usg=AFQjCNFrSlejOtKMFW5gCoFUUXdnhRGcvA&sig2=VLxrLZPI2MlWxQBBwx5VzQ
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PackFanWithTwins
7 years ago

"You people" means all of you who vote Republican; but then don't take any responsibility for what the politicians you elect do in office. Of course, I'm a reasonable person, please explain the latest vote to kick people off health care so they can give more tax credits the wealthy. Something "you people" are all very proud of I'm sure.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



Nobody is getting kicked off. Just another liberal scare tactic. FYI you want insurance get it and pay for it. If people choose to not carry insurance that is their choice. You know one of the things that made this country great being free to choose.
The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
DakotaT
7 years ago

Nobody is getting kicked off. Just another liberal scare tactic. FYI you want insurance get it and pay for it. If people choose to not carry insurance that is their choice. You know one of the things that made this country great being free to choose.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 



I choose we all have medicare. I'm sick of funding your War Machine. Do I have a choice in how my government spends my tax dollars. I'm also sick if carrying the tax load for treasonous assholes evading taxes illegally and through crony capitalism.

You're as bad as fucking Cheesey with your party line views. Anything you clowns say, I've heard a thousand times.

If you don't understand why I'm mad about this having my daughter kicked off insurance, then you're more ignorant than I thought. "Nobody is getting kicked off" - what a crock of shit! Just watch, then you can formulate an apology for your gullibility.
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PackFanWithTwins
7 years ago

I choose we all have medicare. I'm sick of funding your War Machine. Do I have a choice in how my government spends my tax dollars. I'm also sick if carrying the tax load for treasonous assholes evading taxes illegally and through crony capitalism.

You're as bad as fucking Cheesey with your party line views. Anything you clowns say, I've heard a thousand times.

If you don't understand why I'm mad about this having my daughter kicked off insurance, then you're more ignorant than I thought. "Nobody is getting kicked off" - what a crock of shit! Just watch, then you can formulate an apology for your gullibility.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



Pay for the insurance and nobody gets kicked off. You are just a welfare whore.
The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
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7 years ago

Nobody is getting kicked off. Just another liberal scare tactic. FYI you want insurance get it and pay for it. If people choose to not carry insurance that is their choice. You know one of the things that made this country great being free to choose.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 



Healthcare has become less affordable for one reason: ungodly corporate profits. In 2010 CEO Hemsley of United Health made 102 Million; the ACA caused his salary to tumble to 66M in 2015. There are 10s of thousands of medical company execs making over $1M per. 10s of thousands of Drug and Med equipment salespeople make make $3-4-500K per. This is why premiums are outrageous.

The US is now 27th in infant mortality rates. Because we are the only nation on earth that allows banksters to heist trillions of dollars. The rest of the developed world sees heathcare as a right.

62% of bankruptcies are from medical issues. The rest of the developed nations cant believe this.

When the 1964 civil rights act was passed the racists did not evaporate; they just could walk around with those sheets, they had to be sneakier about their discrimination tactics.

Sneaky racists legislators targeted characteristics that were associated with minorities.

As healthcare costs increased Infant mortality rose from almost equal 30 years ago to now its 2.5 x higher in lower income, which is largely minority. The ACA will bring the infant mortality rate of minorities down and Trump and his Alt right white militant Christina Supremacist amoral cruel nasty scum dont want this.

But, let's all cry for the gassed Syrian Children,boo hoo, so we can bomb em; but let's kill the minority children here.

Classless and amoral. I think of the a guy with twins that married minority poor and that guys grandchildren were KILLED by his opinion.
PackFanWithTwins
7 years ago
Can't believe you are parroting the bullshit bankruptcy lie.

Here is some facts. Healthcare is expensive, ACA didn't make anything cheaper, it did the opposite. what is the cause of that is government interference. Every dollar of medical expense we run through insurance increases the cost 15-20% just in insurance company profit. Overall in the business world, if a company can operate on 15-20% overhead, they are doing great most companies run that just on employee salaries. The only reason Insurance can do it is because they use our premium dollars to generate other revenue. That is something government can't do so government will never be able to provide the same service any cheaper.

The best way is to make people more self sufficient. Rather than dumping all or dollars into the insurance companies bank accounts, dump it into the peoples HSA accounts and let them use some to buy cheaper catastrophic coverage. Or even let groups pool their money and self insure. On average insurance gets about 8K for a persons insurance, then the person has another 3000-4000 in deductible before Insurance start paying, how is that affordable? That is around 10,000-12,000 a person could put in their HSA. Those same people until age 50 average less than 4000 in medical expense a year. By the time a person reaches their senior years, they would have a huge nestegg for medical care.

Then we need to actually look at how to bring down the actual medical cost that drive the higher prices. Nobody has even thought about that discussion.
The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
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