Dulak
16 years ago
Not sure whats the big deal with hiring this guy ... seems like lots of peeps opposed to it.

I say if he comes at a resonable price Grab him; I already stated the reasons.

- Well spoken and a vetern
- Physically good specs for a DE (pretty similar height/weight as igor)
- Played in tampa which sounded like they had good d a couple years ago. (from the u tube clip).
- He's not going to play everydown ya - we need depth in our Dline - injuries, lost cole and we arnt persuing any other guys.

What do we want to do wait for the draft and potentially get screwed? You guys remember what happend last year when we lost jenkins and barnett; our D just plummited.

I know you guys like raji - but hes not a sure thing neither are the other DE guys in the 2nd and 3rd round.

I do agree with the poster that said we need more pass protection for rodgers ... that viking game sure showed me that one.

and like some peeps said ya hes old ... so grab him for a couple to help teach these youngings how to play.

-was going to say- I dont expect our D to be worse then last year; as a matter of fact much better.

Dom sounds like a smart guy; and he's said its going to take 3 years to fully implement the 3-4 in. ie we will be running the normal 4-3 50-60% of the plays accoding to MM/DC
bozz_2006
16 years ago
he's 35 years old.
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longtimefan
16 years ago
Leadership and experience is what was said this team lacked.

So there is a guy that could provide some of that and people still wish to crap on it.
longtimefan
16 years ago

I say he won't even be mentioned in GB, as i agree with Dfoster for once and that is we are rebuilding. Remember this is only year 5 of the 10-20 year plan Ted Thompson has in store for us.

We will not sign any old guy to a 1-2 year deal because we aren't that close to being an elite team.

"dfosterf" wrote:



I bet you don't agree with my assessment that Aaron Rodgers is an improved keystone over Brett Favre.

"dhazer" wrote:



I bet I dont agree with a mod derailing a thread that was about a defensive player, then it starts to get into a Favre/Rodgers effing debate


Yeah I said that

So eat me

:P
bozz_2006
16 years ago

Leadership and experience is what was said this team lacked.

So there is a guy that could provide some of that and people still wish to crap on it.

"longtimefan" wrote:



I'm not crapping on it. just saying the guy is pretty old for an NFL player. That's a "con" against Carter. A "pro" is the experience he brings.
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Rios39
16 years ago
I think some of us are using age just despite. He's way better then Holliday. Sure he's a little older, but he's never missed a game and he's never actually had a bad year. He was terrific last year. Obviously you don't bring him in for any more then 2 years. But chances are he would be a very valuable player for us next year at the very least.

But Getting him means I think we need to bring in maybe 2-3 more players that can rotate positions, for depth and backup.
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porky88
16 years ago
Dom Capers knows both Holiday and Carter so he would be probably behind a move like this. I assume Capers would tell the Packers which one he feels has more left.

Anyways the move makes sense. GB needs depth along the defensive line and a leader. What has Aaron Kampman done in the NFL? Not much when you look at the big picture. Really the only guy the starts on the defense that played in a Super Bowl is Charles Woodson.

Carter would be No. 2 and he would be the unquestioned leader of the defensive line.

As far as rebuilding. This is a make or break year for the regime. Miami was 1-15 in 07 and 11-5 in 08. They had to rebuild both sides of the ball.

GB just has to add a starter or two and they're set. Not a chance that this is a rebuiding year.
Megatron
16 years ago
I say sign him up. He would add depth, can switch from 3-4 to 4-3, experienced, very durable, leadership, excellent size, can provide pass rush. What not to like about him? 35 is not old old... could easily play for a year or two depending how often we will rotate him. He shouldn't be too expensive at all.

Minor problem: He may demand to start cos he's used to that and isn't used to sitting on the bench and coming on for certain plays....that might hurt our chances of getting him.
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Rios39
16 years ago

I say sign him up. He would add depth, can switch from 3-4 to 4-3, experienced, very durable, leadership, excellent size, can provide pass rush. What not to like about him? 35 is not old old... could easily play for a year or two depending how often we will rotate him. He shouldn't be too expensive at all.

Minor problem: He may demand to start cos he's used to that and isn't used to sitting on the bench and coming on for certain plays....that might hurt our chances of getting him.

"Megatron" wrote:



He'll need to show signs of slowing down before we consistently bench him a lot. No sense in benching him if he's performing as well as last year and every other year he's played.
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blueleopard
16 years ago
I stopped taking this seriously when people talked about a "rebuilding" season.

We've been rebuilding for years and the rest of the NFC North is nowhere near the same shape as this talented Packers team.

If Ted Thompson and Mike McCarthy don't have more than 9 wins this season, the clock will be ticking on their employment.
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