Rodgers a Franchise QB?· Page 2

TengoJuego
Rookie

15 years ago

#11

Whatever. Aaron is great and I don't care who hates it. lol

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

15 years ago

#12

Well guys look at these stats

4301 yds 24 tds 8 ints -mb
4014 yds 17 tds 10 ints -tg
4038 yds 28 tds 13 ints - a r
4717 yds 39 tds 11 ints - dc
3324 yds 19tds 7 ints - dm

now would all those numbers make these qbs franchise qbs?

"dhazer" wrote:

I think throwing over 4,000 yards, topping 25 TD's with a better than 2:1 TD to INT is a pretty damn good season.

Bulger - I think would have potential based on those numbers. 3:1 ratio is impressive.

Trent Green - Not enough TD's to be considered really good.

DC - PHENOMAL season with Randy Moss.

I think Bulger and Culpepper were Fanchise type QB's for quite awhile. I think they each had injuries that hampered their careers.

dhazer
Veteran Member Topic Starter

15 years ago

#13

Well the point im trying to get across is let the kid play a few years before we add the pressure of being a franchise qb. Yes thats right i'm trying to be on Rodgers side here.

Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

15 years ago

#14

Well the point im trying to get across is let the kid play a few years before we add the pressure of being a franchise qb. Yes thats right i'm trying to be on Rodgers side here.

"dhazer" wrote:

My thoughts on Rodgers season. He had a helluva start and we'll have to see how he does later on.

Of the numbers you posted, I find this intriguing.

Bulger - 4th season as starter
Green - 6th season as starter
Culpepper - 5th season as starter
McNabb - 8th season as starter

and you are comparing them to Rodgers FIRST season as a full time starter. And you claim you are on Rodger side?

Jacob
Rookie

15 years ago

#15

Well the point im trying to get across is let the kid play a few years before we add the pressure of being a franchise qb. Yes thats right i'm trying to be on Rodgers side here.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:

"dhazer" wrote:

+1

Also rodgers did have a lot of weapons but he didn't exactly have a great Oline.

porky88
Veteran Member

15 years ago

#16

The added pressure?

Rodgers knows he's this teams' franchise quarterback. I think he's more than aware of any pressure surrounding him.

You don't need to be a Hall of Fame QB to be a franchise QB. The fact that the Packers currently consider Rodgers a franchise quarterback is enough to consider him a franchise quarterback. He is the long term solution at QB RIGHT NOW.

Whether or not that turns out to be true is irrelevant. It's like saying well Greg Jennings had only one 1,000 yard season so maybe he'll flop. Maybe, but unlikely.

The way I see it, injuries are the only thing that will hold a guy like Rodgers or Jennings back. Even if Rodgers has a solid career like Phil Simms had, he's a franchise QB in my opinion.

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longtimefan
Registered

15 years ago

#17

Well the point im trying to get across is let the kid play a few years before we add the pressure of being a franchise qb. Yes thats right i'm trying to be on Rodgers side here.

"dhazer" wrote:

Franchise q/b = someone you plan on having at the spot for YEARS

Plain and simple..

Not how much they make, or what their stats are...

Just are you going to keep him around for a while

Brett WASNT a franchise q/b in NY

Casell in KC now is a franchise q/b

I really am not sure how hard that is to understand

Dulak
Veteran Member

15 years ago

#18

+1

Also rodgers did have a lot of weapons but he didn't exactly have a great Oline.

"Jacob" wrote:

ya so true ...

DakotaT
Select Member

15 years ago

#19

It's hard to debunk a quarterback when he throws for 28 touchdowns and 4.000 yards.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:

Unless you're a Ted Hatorade and Favre Loverade type, then it's easy peazy.

"porky88" wrote:

Z, they are called Tators and I've heard supporters of Uncle Ted called Tedaphiles, which doesn't really sound too good.

As for this thread, I think you have to be a pretty special quarterback to throw for 4,000 and 28 touchdowns, but I think Dhazer has a good point that Rodgers still has things to prove. Rodgers did throw some untimely picks, forcing the ball, in games that were within reach; but it surely wasn't his fault the defense fell apart (please see NO and Houston games).

dhazer
Veteran Member Topic Starter

15 years ago

#20

The added pressure?

Rodgers knows he's this teams' franchise quarterback. I think he's more than aware of any pressure surrounding him.

You don't need to be a Hall of Fame QB to be a franchise QB. The fact that the Packers currently consider Rodgers a franchise quarterback is enough to consider him a franchise quarterback. He is the long term solution at QB RIGHT NOW.

Whether or not that turns out to be true is irrelevant. It's like saying well Greg Jennings had only one 1,000 yard season so maybe he'll flop. Maybe, but unlikely.

The way I see it, injuries are the only thing that will hold a guy like Rodgers or Jennings back. Even if Rodgers has a solid career like Phil Simms had, he's a franchise QB in my opinion.

"porky88" wrote:

Ok for the part i bolded i'll give you an example of a so called franchise wr then he sucked. Look no farther than Walker he played great wanted big bucks and then when he got it he flopped big time. You guys i guess just can't see my point that i will not consider anyone a franchise player after playing for one year. Yes he had a great year but lets see what happens this year. I have seen to many one year wonders in the nfl to jump on a player right away. I mean the same people that are saying he is a franchise qb are also the same ones that also say certain qbs like Flacco and Ryan are just average qbs because of their numbers. Just makes me wonder if it we had Cassell and the Pats had Rodgers and they put up their numbers would you be saying Rodgers put up his numbers because of the players around him and Cassell did it with no o-line?

Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)

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