nerdmann
7 years ago

Read this:
http://www.packers.com/news-and-events/article-player-feature/article-1/Back-in-Green-Bay-Davon-House-relishes-chance-to-play-his-game-again/c868457c-50eb-4ec3-b018-486d89ffe7af?campaign=sf62942071_FB_C-Content-GB_CT-Stories-GB_sf62942071#ixzz4bR2UeMIc 

got to say Wow really liked the things he said ... after reading that cant wait to see his play in action. Wouldnt say the same thing about our previous corners - more often then not they made me cringe.



Originally Posted by: Dulak 



Almost like a James Jones thpe scenario. I like JJ better, but House can play.
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yooperfan
7 years ago

Read this:
http://www.packers.com/news-and-events/article-player-feature/article-1/Back-in-Green-Bay-Davon-House-relishes-chance-to-play-his-game-again/c868457c-50eb-4ec3-b018-486d89ffe7af?campaign=sf62942071_FB_C-Content-GB_CT-Stories-GB_sf62942071#ixzz4bR2UeMIc 

got to say Wow really liked the things he said ... after reading that cant wait to see his play in action. Wouldnt say the same thing about our previous corners - more often then not they made me cringe.



Originally Posted by: Dulak 


He can "talk the talk" but he has to "walk the walk".
I'm not convinced.

Dulak
7 years ago

Almost like a James Jones thpe scenario. I like JJ better, but House can play.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



ya hopefully at least better then what we have ... I missed shields play this year was quite a good coverage guy also.
Nonstopdrivel
7 years ago
If I had more free time, I'd be curious to see if any team re-signs more of their own retreads than Green Bay. It would make for an interesting statistical analysis project. Maybe Barfarn can run the numbers.
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PackFanWithTwins
7 years ago

If I had more free time, I'd be curious to see if any team re-signs more of their own retreads than Green Bay. It would make for an interesting statistical analysis project. Maybe Barfarn can run the numbers.

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel 



Little old but some interesting data for you.
http://www.packersnews.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/2015/07/21/data-shows-just-good-thompson-draft/30475885/ 

A lot depends on where in the process a team is. When a team starts building it is easy to draft players who contribute right away and resign because the depth of talent on the team isn't as good. the better the team is built the harder that becomes. for the long term prosperity of a team, what is important is not getting stuck with contracts for players no longer contributing which is why Ted doesn't sign a whole lot of players in their 30's.
The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
Barfarn
7 years ago

If I had more free time, I'd be curious to see if any team re-signs more of their own retreads than Green Bay. It would make for an interesting statistical analysis project. Maybe Barfarn can run the numbers.

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel 



This is the right thinking. Is the GM any good that drafts 3 HOFers each year? To answer it you need to see what everyone else is doing. If all other GMs draft 6 HOFers/yr, then the GM sucks that drafts 3.

Everyone likes to measure GB against some idealistic standard.

Here's what other fans have to look at: Seattle lost its #2 CB and their 3rd CB stinks and signed Joekel and Lacy. Dallas lost 2 guys on each the OL and DL and 4 of top 6 DBs and in response signed a Philly retread for 3 YEARS [Nolan Carroll-3 yr 10M] for Davon House money. Atl signed a KC retread [Poe for 8M].

But i digress, LOL. To answer your question, GB rarely signs its own retreads, but all other teams insist on consistently signing retreads of others. What's worse?

The proof is in the GM pudding! 8 straight PO appearances [done by only 3 teams in history]; 1 SB win, 4 more superbowl quality rosters [2011, 2014-16].
Nonstopdrivel
7 years ago
Just to clarify, by "retread" I meant a player who has departed for another team and then comes back to Green Bay. You probably understood that, but it wasn't entirely clear to me from your response.

As for your contention that the 2011 team was Super Bowl caliber, forgive me for laughing out loud. Sure, the offense was spectacular that year, but they had to be because that pathetic defense couldn't stop a nosebleed. I was bitching all year that they were going to get their asses handed to them in the playoffs. They ended up getting bitch-slapped by the Giants in one of the most dramatic choke jobs in NFL history.
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