If 12 Retired Today: How Many Games Do 2017 Packers Win?

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uffda udfa
Veteran Member Topic Starter

7 years ago

I think this is a tough question. Depends on how Ted chooses to fix the QB position. I doubt he pulls off a Bradford type trade. Seneca is about all we have to go on or rolling with Hundley. In that case, 5 games would seem about as good as we could hope for if we could even get there

The question really should be weighted to reflect how we'd do with an average starting QB. Given we have a bottom third STs and defense, I can't imagine it would go well. 7 or 8 games, maybe?

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

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gbguy20
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7 years ago

Glad you threw in that last paragraph, as that is what I was going to post.

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TheKanataThrilla
Veteran Member

7 years ago

Our D is so reliant on Aaron Rodgers putting up big numbers it is hard not to think we would end up looking like the Indy Colts when Peyton went down. Just don't think we will be lucky enough to have Aaron Rodgers retire or go down with injury when an Andrew Luck is available at QB in the draft.

I am disappointed we never got to see Hundley do anything this year when we put him in the game. All I have that is positive of him was pre-season 2 years ago. Is there talk from players about how good Brett is? At least we knew from players that they viewed Aaron really well even though we saw him in limited reps(although the Dallas game showed lots of promise).

nerdmann
Premier Member

7 years ago

Aaron refused to execute the offense until we were 4-6. Did he play great to get us out of that hole? Sure, until the NFCCG when he reverted back to passing up the open guy and trying to force it to Jordy.

Maybe we can get a guy who will just be consistent and execute the offense.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

Cheesey
Preferred Member

7 years ago

We would be lucky to win 4 games without him.
Does Rodgers have his "warts"? Yes. But he STILL is one of the best QBS in the NFL.
There are probably 20 to 25 teams that WISH they had someone that "awful".

steveishere
Veteran Member

7 years ago

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

More like he started just throwing it to guys that were covered after Mike refused to adapt the offense to help guys get open for over a year.

68md
Member

7 years ago

That depends... if we draft a RB in the first 3 rounds to go with Monty and you change to a 2 TE run first attack you could get 6-7 wins out of it. A lot of variables involved.

PackFanWithTwins
Veteran Member

7 years ago

Everyone they don't lose.

If we assume the defense is no better than it was last year, not very many. If they invest the 14 million in cap space we would gain in a pass rush that can get after an opposing QB we have a chance for more.

While I would not like to lose Rodgers I would be curious of how McCarthy would handle it, can he adjust the offense to maximize Hundley.

The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!

mi_keys
Senior Member

7 years ago

The question really should be weighted to reflect how we'd do with an average starting QB. Given we have a bottom third STs and defense, I can't imagine it would go well. 7 or 8 games, maybe?

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

That's an important qualification but I would also add the question of what we are paying for the replacement QB.

If we're getting an average quarterback replacing Aaron and still paying upwards of $20M/year like some teams are doing currently, probably somewhere around 6-8 games.

If we're getting an average quarterback on a rookie deal, and the salary cap savings are used effectively elsewhere on the roster, maybe that goes up to the 8-10 win range.

Born and bred a cheesehead

nerdmann
Premier Member

7 years ago

#10

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins

Maybe we should average the number of games we won for the 10 years before we had Aaron Rodgers.

This franchise has won more superbowls WITHOUT Aaron than they have with him.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

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