Rios39
16 years ago
He's older now but still very successful and in terrific shape. Bring him in on a 1-2 year deal. Has perfect size to play DE in a 3-4. Has tons of football experience and is known as a football leader. Probably get him for cheap and he can make a bigger impact, potentially then Canty and Olshansky. I like the idea of not over spending for DT's unless we draft one.

I'd go after him and maybe Mike Wright and set up a solid rotation along with Harrell, Jolly, Malone, Jenkins and maybe we draft a few guys that can play the position as well.

This would make sense to me, I know a lot of people will say he's too old....meh. It's better then locking a marginal player up to 5 year deals. Plus you can't argue with his credentials.

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blueleopard
16 years ago
Kevin Carter, not Green.

He's too old to be considered for more than two years, so signing him to a short team deal is almost useless because he'd either be bound to lose the job, or he'll get hurt.

But we have money and he does have credentials. He's the guy with the kind of attitude our defensive line will need.

Show up to work. Go to work. Every week.
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shield4life
16 years ago
Isn't Kevin Green our LB coach lol?
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Rios39
16 years ago
lol That's what happens when you stay up till 4 in the morning and you have the Packers on your mind.
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Rios39
16 years ago

Kevin Carter, not Green.

He's too old to be considered for more than two years, so signing him to a short team deal is almost useless because he'd either be bound to lose the job, or he'll get hurt.

But we have money and he does have credentials. He's the guy with the kind of attitude our defensive line will need.

Show up to work. Go to work. Every week.

"blueleopard" wrote:



I don't understand what you mean here. You would sign him short term, cheaply incase one of the 2 happened and it wouldn't hurt so badly?

2nd part of what you said I agree with. I just think we need some solid bodies that can play DE/DT. Don't necessarily need to be cornerstone DE's. Infact I think in a 3-4 it's not that important ...Unless it's a nose tackle which is where you want to be set at. if you're lucky enough to draft a guy that can be a 3-4 Nose Tackle (Raji) then that would be the ideal situation.

Otherwise I think we just need bodies that can fit in and play at DE and fill the gaps.
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blueleopard
16 years ago
I'm just not so high on players who are here for a year, contribute, and then you never hear from them again. Terry Glenn, for example, stepped in well in place of Antonio Freeman and was a key reason for Donald Driver finally bursting onto the scene. Then he got traded.

Kevin Carter is someone who can undoubtedly contribute, but with his age, injuries are bound to catch up to him, and I fear that all he'd be used for is keeping players in line (while on the sideline). If Carter was like 32-33, I wouldn't see it as much of an issue.

So what I'm saying is... if he signed, it better be so cheap that it wouldn't affect us in any fashion.
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Pack93z
16 years ago
I find it interesting that we have interest in Carter but not Holiday.. Capers has experience with both gents..
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Dulak
16 years ago
This cat looks Good ...

I say we sign this guy!

Reasons:
The guy sounds intelligent, hard worker (hasnt missed a game). Brings alot of experience, the interview talks about being on a good d team at the bucs ...

ya sure he's older and wont be DE on all downs ... but perhaps this means we get him for cheaper and if it dont work out we dont lose alot of $

I have a feeling Ted Thompson is saving cap room for next year and for signing some of our key players collins/jennings etc ...

sign this guy
packer98
16 years ago
No thank you. If we are going with youth, go with youth. We already have some veteran players to assume the leadership roles. Right now we are trying to fill gaps that we could've filled with much better and younger players. I say stay with the youth movement if that is the direction Ted Thompson wants to go. Let's play the draft picks and see what TT's knowledge with talent has really provided us.
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Pack93z
16 years ago

No thank you. If we are going with youth, go with youth. We already have some veteran players to assume the leadership roles. Right now we are trying to fill gaps that we could've filled with much better and younger players. I say stay with the youth movement if that is the direction Ted Thompson wants to go. Let's play the draft picks and see what Ted Thompson's knowledge with talent has really provided us.

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While I agree that I would like a younger option for a full time player, but I disagree with the thinking of not adding vets.

The blend has been too light on veteran presence to date, the collapses of last season speak loudly to that.

I also think that Ted will have learned from that, maybe not going out and inking a ton of veterans, but instead slowing the pace of roster turnover and leaving more of the core and depth in tact.
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