Pack93z
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8 years ago
I will say it again.... until this outfit gets on the same page and the players are truly engaged again, I see this not ending the way it potentially could based on talent alone.

I have no idea the root cause of the issues... but they have to figure it out.

Can't expect complete harmony in any locker room or between staff and players... but it appears much is still lacking in the communications between players and staff.

2008 has taught this regime little apparently... healthy, full and honest communications to the players from coaches and staff is a requirement to maintain a healthy locker room.

Appears broken to me.

I hope at years end, if we fall short of potential, that true change at 1265 begins.
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bboystyle
8 years ago

How did Belicheck do as a head coach before he got teamed with Brady? This team was good when we had arguably the best WR group in the NFL, and it has slowly declined as that group has lost quality depth. We have barely been able to run the ball his entire time here.

There are former head coaches and coordinators who teamed up with Rodgers would likely have success they didn't before. Sam Bradford looks like a new person with his change of team and coach.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 



Belicheck made the browns relevant and had them trending upwards right to the playoffs in 1994 before leaving. Its safe to say that franchise hasnt been anything since then.
gbguy20
8 years ago
It is also literally a different franchise.
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buckeyepackfan
8 years ago

Belicheck made the browns relevant and had them trending upwards right to the playoffs in 1994 before leaving. Its safe to say that franchise hasnt been anything since then.

Originally Posted by: bboystyle 



To be fair The Browns started over as an expansion team, but after 10 or so coaches and gms in 22 years, just goes to show how valuable it is to have stability at the GM and HC Positions.
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Pack93z
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7 years ago
Well I got my wish on a single game level... the defense crumbled to fine little pieces... in a total blaze.

Sooner or later, we keep hitting that wall and wonder... will we clear it this time?

Not heaping all the blame on Dom, but at this point, I think that we need a change in vision there... a different voice moving the pieces differently.

On the thread itself, this team forged itself into a team someplace mid season, QB and HC seemed to be defending each other.. relationship on the sidelines improved. Team improved and went on a run... talent alone does not win.
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nerdmann
7 years ago

Well I got my wish on a single game level... the defense crumbled to fine little pieces... in a total blaze.

Sooner or later, we keep hitting that wall and wonder... will we clear it this time?

Not heaping all the blame on Dom, but at this point, I think that we need a change in vision there... a different voice moving the pieces differently.

On the thread itself, this team forged itself into a team someplace mid season, QB and HC seemed to be defending each other.. relationship on the sidelines improved. Team improved and went on a run... talent alone does not win.

Originally Posted by: Pack93z 



The main point being, SOME of our DBs got healthy again. Healthy enough at least to play.

Does Dom leave something to be desired? Yeah. Just sayin.
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mojaveson
7 years ago

To be fair The Browns started over as an expansion team, but after 10 or so coaches and gms in 22 years, just goes to show how valuable it is to have stability at the GM and HC Positions.

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 



You nailed it. People forget the expansion aspect, but it does make a difference.

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bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes its possible but unlikely. If we do get the 5th, we face the NFCS winner
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Ahh, ok.
bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes due to tie breaker
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I mean, unlikely, yes, but mathematically, 5th is possible by what I'm reading.
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : If Vikings lose out, Packers win out, Packers get 5th, right?
bboystyle (23-Dec) : Minny isnt going to lose out so 5th seed is out of the equation. We are playing for the 6th or 7th seed which makes no difference
Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, the ad revenue goes to the broadcast company but they gotta pay to air the game on their channel/network
beast (23-Dec) : If we win tonight the game is still relative in terms of 5th, 6th or 7th seed... win and it's 5th or 6th, lose and it's 6th or 7th
beast (23-Dec) : Mucky, I thought the ad revenue went to the broadcasting companies or the NFL, at least not directly
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I think the revenue share is moot, isn't it? That's the CBA an Salary Cap handling that.
bboystyle (23-Dec) : i mean game becomes irrelevant if we win tonight. Just a game where we are trying to play spoilers to Vikings chance at the #1 seed
Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, I would guess ad revenue from more eyes watching tv
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I would think it would hurt the home team because people would have to cancel last minute maybe? i dunno
beast (23-Dec) : I agree that it's BS for fans planning on going to the game. But how does it bring in more money? I'm guessing indirectly?
packerfanoutwest (23-Dec) : bs on flexing the game....they do it for the $$league$$, not the hometown fans
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Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I wanna kill new QB's ... blitz the crap out of them.
beast (23-Dec) : Barry seemed to get too conservative against new QBs, Hafley doesn't have that issue
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