djcubez
15 years ago
Neither of them are worth are first round pick unless it's a straight up trade. That's just downright ridiculous.
Pack93z
15 years ago
Do we know if Peppers can play from the outside coming from an upright position?

Do we know if he can drop into a zone?

We know he can't anchor the point of attack that will be required in a 3-4... the book on Peppers was run directly at him.

With that, IMO, the risk would have been great if we just signed him a a UFA.. but now, giving up a premium pick to get the rights to hand him over a brinks truck worth of cash.

Haynesworth got 41 million guaranteed, you think Peppers, whom has a pretty clean history compared to Albert is going to settle for 30 Million.. I think that is wishful thinking..

Don't get me wrong, I would love to see Peppers in the Green and Gold, without a single doubt.

But at some points the cost of such an endeavor outweigh the potential returns... you are absolutely correct that the #9 pick will have some risk to it. And no, I don't like handing a fortune over to an unproven player.. albeit, if we do are job correctly.. we will mitigate that risk by choosing wisely.

Riskier than I would like.. if we knew 100% that Peppers would play to the level capable and make the transition with great success I would be more in favor.. as it is.. too much risk verse potential reward.
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
porky88
15 years ago
Everyone new Bob Sanders and others were lame ducks weeks before it happen. Everyone new the team was going after a 3-4 coach and it would take a shake up on that side of the ball to change schemes. GB can downplay their change all they want, but they know it's significant.

As for the rumors

Neither trade would happen IMO.

I think the Packers could offer a 2nd and KC would take it straight up for Tony G because Piloi comes from the Belichick regime and NE values second round picks like bars of gold.

They may even take something like a 3rd and a 5th for Tony G.

To get Peppers all you have to do is give No. 9. Carolina will not get that good of an offer from anyone else.

The best offer I think they'd get is a New England's first and one of their seconds.

See what I just did....
go.pack.go.
15 years ago
I say no to both of them....I don't want to lose Al Harris, and plus we would have to pay big money for a top 5 pick.
UserPostedImage
porky88
15 years ago
Just read this

http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/The+Way+We+Hear+It/Audibles/2009/audibles2401.htm 

I could see Julius Peppers going to the Packers or the Broncos. They are both moving to 3-4 fronts. He could make the kind of impact in Green Bay that Reggie White did. I know wed love to have him, but I think the market will be too rich. The Packers have always managed the cap well. The Broncos just freed up a bunch of room (before the start of free agency). I think youll see a big market emerge, and the Panthers will wind up back in the first round. If the Chiefs can get what they did (from Minnesota) for Jared Allen, what is Peppers worth?


bozz_2006
15 years ago
Broncos can't have much money left.
UserPostedImage
bozz_2006
15 years ago
I don't want to get peppers. I can just imagine the kind of money he'd command. enough so that we wouldn't be able to re-sign many of our guys such as Kampman, Collins, and one Greg Jennings.
UserPostedImage
MattG04
15 years ago
Don't Trade Al Ted!!
blank
DakotaT
15 years ago
Peppers could play DE in the base and OLB on passing downs, which would help Kampmann. The only way I would trade the first away is if we traded back and added a second.

I think the Panthers are really pinched against the cap. They made their choice by signing Gross. Peppers got franchised so they wouldn't lose him for nothing. I'm not sure the date in which you need to be under the cap, but if we could hold out on the trade, they may end up having to cut him.

It seems to me that if we could get Peppers without trading, Uncle Ted the scrooge would look pretty shrewd. Isn't that how Woodson ended up here, we were the only team with money left?
UserPostedImage
bozz_2006
15 years ago
I don't think Peppers could get the job done as DE in a 3-4.
UserPostedImage
Users browsing this topic
    Fan Shout
    packerfanoutwest (15h) : 49ers are underdogs at Packers, ending streak of 36 straight games as favorites
    Zero2Cool (23h) : 49ers might be down their QB, DL, TE and LT?
    packerfanoutwest (22-Nov) : Jaire Alexander says he has a torn PCL
    Zero2Cool (20-Nov) : Even with the context it's ... what?
    Mucky Tundra (20-Nov) : Matt LaFleur without context: “I don’t wanna pat you on the butt and you poop in my hand.”
    beast (20-Nov) : We brought in a former Packers OL coach to help evaluate OL as a scout
    beast (20-Nov) : Jets have been pretty good at picking DL
    Zero2Cool (20-Nov) : He landed good players thanks to high draft slot. He isn't good.
    Zero2Cool (20-Nov) : He can shove his knowledge up his ass. He knows nothing.
    beast (20-Nov) : More knowledge, just like bring in the Jets head coach
    Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : What? Why? Huh?
    beast (19-Nov) : I wonder if the Packers might to try to bring Douglas in through Milt Hendrickson/Ravens connections
    Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : The Jets fired Joe Douglas, per sources
    packerfanoutwest (19-Nov) : Jets are a mess......
    Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : Pretty sure Jets fired their scouting staff and just pluck former Packers.
    Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : Jets sign Anders Carlson to their 53.
    Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : When you cycle the weeks, the total over remains for season. But you get your W/L for that selected week. Confusing.
    packerfanoutwest (19-Nov) : the total and percentage are the same as the previous weeks
    packerfanoutwest (19-Nov) : the total and percentage are the same as the previous weeks
    packerfanoutwest (19-Nov) : the totals are accurate..nrvrtmind
    Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : I don't follow what you are saying. The totals are not the same as last week.
    packerfanoutwest (19-Nov) : ok so then wht are the totals the same as last week?
    Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : NFL Pick'em is auto updated when NFL Scores tab is clicked
    Martha Careful (19-Nov) : The offense was OK. Let's not forget the Bear defense is very very good.
    packerfanoutwest (19-Nov) : Who updates the leaderboard on NFLPickem?
    beast (19-Nov) : Has the Packers offense been worse since the former Jets coach joined the Packers?
    Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : Offense gets his ass in gear, this could be good.
    Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : Backup QB helped with three wins. Special Teams contributed to three wins.
    bboystyle (18-Nov) : Lions played outside thats why. They scored 16 and 17 in the only 2 outside games this year
    Zero2Cool (18-Nov) : The rest of the NFL is catching up to Packers ... kicking is an issue throughout league
    packerfanoutwest (18-Nov) : Packers DL Kenny Clark: We knew 'we were going to block' Bears' game-winning field goal attempt
    Zero2Cool (18-Nov) : Lions seem to be throttling everyone, but only (only) got 24 lol maybe the rain is why
    Zero2Cool (18-Nov) : Packers vs Lions game doesn't seem so bad.
    beast (18-Nov) : Dennis Green "They are what we thought they were, and we let them off the hook!"
    Martha Careful (17-Nov) : comment of the day Z2Cool "Bears better than we want to admit. Packers worse than we think. It's facts."
    Mucky Tundra (17-Nov) : my worst case scenario: Bears fix their oline and get a coach like Johnson from the Lions and his scheme
    Zero2Cool (17-Nov) : Bears get OL fixed amd we might have a problem
    buckeyepackfan (17-Nov) : Pretty sure they already have scouting reports on guys who aren't even starting for their college team. The future is now for me.
    buckeyepackfan (17-Nov) : I tend to let Gute and Co. Worry about the future.
    beast (17-Nov) : That's great news and Packers need to keep upgrading their OL, DL and DBs this off-season, so missing one guy doesn't kill them
    beast (17-Nov) : That's great news and Packers need to keep upgrading their OL, DL and DBs this off-season, so missing one guy doesn't kill them
    buckeyepackfan (17-Nov) : Jaire and Evans Williams are both ACTIVE! Good news.
    Martha Careful (17-Nov) : The badgers really need to change the whole offensive scheme. No draws no screens plus the quarterback is marginal
    Cheesey (17-Nov) : If the Badgers had a decent QB, they would have won. The guy can't hit a wide open receiver
    Martha Careful (17-Nov) : chop block
    Martha Careful (17-Nov) : there was a very questionable job Block call that upon viewing replay was very borderline
    beast (17-Nov) : How so? (I didn't watch)
    Zero2Cool (17-Nov) : Badgers got hosed vs Oregon
    packerfanoutwest (16-Nov) : damn,he hasn't played since week 2
    Mucky Tundra (15-Nov) : poor guy can't catch a break
    Please sign in to use Fan Shout
    2024 Packers Schedule
    Friday, Sep 6 @ 7:15 PM
    Eagles
    Sunday, Sep 15 @ 12:00 PM
    COLTS
    Sunday, Sep 22 @ 12:00 PM
    Titans
    Sunday, Sep 29 @ 12:00 PM
    VIKINGS
    Sunday, Oct 6 @ 3:25 PM
    Rams
    Sunday, Oct 13 @ 12:00 PM
    CARDINALS
    Sunday, Oct 20 @ 12:00 PM
    TEXANS
    Sunday, Oct 27 @ 12:00 PM
    Jaguars
    Sunday, Nov 3 @ 3:25 PM
    LIONS
    Sunday, Nov 17 @ 12:00 PM
    Bears
    Sunday, Nov 24 @ 3:25 PM
    49ERS
    Thursday, Nov 28 @ 7:20 PM
    DOLPHINS
    Thursday, Dec 5 @ 7:15 PM
    Lions
    Sunday, Dec 15 @ 7:20 PM
    Seahawks
    Monday, Dec 23 @ 7:15 PM
    SAINTS
    Sunday, Dec 29 @ 12:00 PM
    Vikings
    Saturday, Jan 4 @ 11:00 PM
    BEARS
    Recent Topics
    2h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

    22-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

    21-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

    21-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

    21-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

    21-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

    21-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

    20-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

    20-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

    20-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

    20-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

    19-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / dfosterf

    19-Nov / Featured Content / Zero2Cool

    19-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

    19-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

    Headlines
    Copyright © 2006 - 2024 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.