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8 years ago

Packers receiver Jordy Nelson had a huge first half against the Vikings today, catching seven passes for 145 yards and two touchdowns before halftime. And he did it against a Minnesota secondary that was defying the orders of head coach Mike Zimmer to have cornerback Xavier Rhodes shadow Nelson. At halftime, Zimmer ordered the players...

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Unbelievable on so many levels.
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DarkaneRules
8 years ago
That linebacker Kendricks was on fire today. That guy earned my total respect. Harrison Smith is a great player in the defensive backfield but other than him I think the other guys are overrated.
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Barfarn
8 years ago

Unbelievable on so many levels.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



Who do they think they are Doppelganger Rodgers?😂 Sorry WPR had to toss that in!

You are right on this WPR; Zimmer is done! Vikes cant win with that nimrod as coach; Zimmer will never head coach again. He's the perfect guy to bring in as Asst DC next year; then he can take over for Dom in the coming years.

I thought he was a good coach, but he's lost his mind. Many times this year he publicly called his team and players horse crap, cant imagine what he said in private. In hindsight, I bet that's why Norv turner quit, he saw it as classless and destructive to his offensive efficiency and the team! This tactic of publicly throwing your players under the bus has never worked. Well it worked for Lacy; Lacy playing NT next year means we can save 3.3M by cutting Guion.

I'd ask so many question at PC tomorrow:

Supposedly, at the half Zimmer made them go back to the gameplan. That makes no sense.

After the first 3-4 plays Zimmer had to know they were rebelling. So why didn’t he stop it then? Or was he silent did he say, “fine, I’ll let you dumbass children stick your finger in the electrical socket.” Or did he try to stop them and they said FU?

The D-Coord saw the rebellion too, did he go to players and they said FU; did he go to Zimmer saying they wont listen to me; what was he doing?

Maybe Zimmer agreed to it to see how it’d work out; then why wait ‘til halftime to revert to original game plan? And if Zimmer tacitly agreed to the rebellion, then why did he toss them under the bus in his press conference?

If these guys thought there was a better plan why didn’t they bring it up earlier in week? Or did they and Zimmer said FU. Or do they see Zimmer as unapproachable?

Why'd Rhodes even bring it up? Was he trying to make the rebellion public, because no one would have known, it looked like a routine half time adjustment? Was he trying to get Zimmer fired? In 2017, Rhodes as an 8M option or he's a FA; is he trying not to have his option picked up?
luigis
8 years ago
I'll say it again, Mike McCarthy isn't perfect but compared to the coaches our division rivals have had he is master Yoda.

Detroit:
Rod Marinelli
Jim Schwartz
Jim Caldwel

Minnesota:
Mike Tice
Brad Childress
Leslie Frazier
Mike Zimmer

Bears:
Lovie Smith
Marc Trestman
John Fox

What a group! It is almost impossible to get outcoached by anyone on the list.


Luis
DoddPower
8 years ago
Vikings gonna Vike.
beast
8 years ago

You are right on this WPR; Zimmer is done! Vikes cant win with that nimrod as coach; Zimmer will never head coach again. He's the perfect guy to bring in as Asst DC next year; then he can take over for Dom in the coming years.

I thought he was a good coach, but he's lost his mind. Many times this year he publicly called his team and players horse crap, cant imagine what he said in private. In hindsight, I bet that's why Norv turner quit, he saw it as classless and destructive to his offensive efficiency and the team! This tactic of publicly throwing your players under the bus has never worked.

Originally Posted by: Barfarn 



Don't forget the Vikings looked like one of the best two teams in the NFC before BOTH their starting OTs got injured for the year. I'm guessing they look strong again next year if those OTs are back.

Seems like a lot of coaches have been throwing their players under the bus publically, more than before. I feel like Bruce Arians was one of the worst.

I don't know why Norv Turner quit, but I thought it'd be a bad fit from day one.... Norv is well known for his aggressive style and wanting and willingness to take risk. While Zimmer is known for being quiet conservative and desire to avoid risk. I've thought this probably played a huge role into it... and I've wondered if the Bradford move had anything to do with it.

After the first 3-4 plays Zimmer had to know they were rebelling. So why didn’t he stop it then? Or was he silent did he say, “fine, I’ll let you dumbass children stick your finger in the electrical socket.” Or did he try to stop them and they said FU?

The D-Coord saw the rebellion too, did he go to players and they said FU; did he go to Zimmer saying they wont listen to me; what was he doing?

Maybe Zimmer agreed to it to see how it’d work out; then why wait ‘til halftime to revert to original game plan? And if Zimmer tacitly agreed to the rebellion, then why did he toss them under the bus in his press conference?

If these guys thought there was a better plan why didn’t they bring it up earlier in week? Or did they and Zimmer said FU. Or do they see Zimmer as unapproachable?

Originally Posted by: Barfarn 



All good questions

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wpr
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8 years ago

I'll say it again, Mike McCarthy isn't perfect but compared to the coaches our division rivals have had he is master Yoda.

Detroit:
Rod Marinelli
Jim Schwartz
Jim Caldwel

Minnesota:
Mike Tice
Brad Childress
Leslie Frazier
Mike Zimmer

Bears:
Lovie Smith
Marc Trestman
John Fox

What a group! It is almost impossible to get outcoached by anyone on the list.

Originally Posted by: luigis 



There are some joke HC here but a few of them were pretty decent. Lovie wasn't horrible. He took his team to the SB. They had an easy schedule that year and got a few lucky breaks along the way but they still made it.

Every single one of them would have been more respectable if they had a future HoF QB playing for them.

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nerdmann
8 years ago

Don't forget the Vikings looked like one of the best two teams in the NFC before BOTH their starting OTs got injured for the year. I'm guessing they look strong again next year if those OTs are back.

Seems like a lot of coaches have been throwing their players under the bus publically, more than before. I feel like Bruce Arians was one of the worst.

I don't know why Norv Turner quit, but I thought it'd be a bad fit from day one.... Norv is well known for his aggressive style and wanting and willingness to take risk. While Zimmer is known for being quiet conservative and desire to avoid risk. I've thought this probably played a huge role into it... and I've wondered if the Bradford move had anything to do with it.



All good questions

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They also lost both their starting QB and HoF RB.

Dude made chicken salad.

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sschind
8 years ago

They also lost both their starting QB and HoF RB.

Dude made chicken salad.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



I guess making chicken salad out of a porterhouse steak is fine if its all you can get.
beast
8 years ago

They also lost both their starting QB and HoF RB.

Dude made chicken salad.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 


I don't count them, because they traded for a better QB than their starting QB (becoming their new starting QB) and their HoF c̶h̶i̶l̶d̶ ̶b̶e̶a̶t̶e̶r̶ RB was done before he got injured... as he was averaging less than 2 yards per rush before getting injured and since he came back, he's average went up, but it's still under 2 yards per rush.

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