Zero2Cool
8 years ago
Ty Montgomery LOOKS THE PART (and btw, that is ALL it takes). Sarcasm aside, Montgomery just feels like he's going to break one at any moment. James Starks still runs like he's a 4.3 speed guy, something he never was.

I really do like Christine Michael too, but knowing that Montgomery had been practicing RB for over a month before taking a snap at RB in a game ... it's time to make him the lead RB.


By now it’s evident to everyone: Ty Montgomery is the Green Bay Packers’ best running back.

Snowy Lambeau afternoons used to follow with a heavy dose of Eddie Lacy. Any hopes of James Starks‘ replicating Lacy’s thumping style quickly dissolved, the veteran running back dancing his way to the bench.

Christine Michael, claimed off waivers in November, showed more energy and burst than Starks after entering the game, but he too struggled to produce. Michael’s nine carries returned just 19 yards.

Stuck in first gear with momentum shifting to the visiting Texans, the Packers turned to Ty Montgomery. The receiver-turned-running back obliged, sparking the offense into life with 40 yards from just six carries.

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Porforis
8 years ago
I think part of the reason why Monty is having success is that he's like a younger, stronger Randall Cobb in terms of how he's being utilized. Yes he's much more of an RB than Cobb ever will be, but he does a lot more for you the way they're using him now than he will just running the ball from the backfield and the occasional screen. Give him 20 carries (Because would a McCarthy offense run more?) and the production will drop and he'll likely get dinged up. I'd much rather have the defenses constantly worrying that the Packers are going to run a draw and get a consistent 4-6 yards when we do so. And having the option to motion him outside/inside if he lines up outside.

I think a lot of our lack of success in the run game has been... That we don't run the ball. That and no deep pass attack means defenses are playing close to the line. Running it with Montgomery might be a bit better but it's not going to be leaps and bounds better than Starks and Rip. Need to see a lot more of Michael but he had a good run so who knows. What hurts the Packers a lot of times is THOSE STUPID RUNS TO THE OUTSIDE THAT HAVE NEVER WORKED MORE THAN 1/10 TIMES NO MATTER WHO WE HAVE BACK THERE that usually nets negative yards. It's not so much the runners as the blockers not being fast enough to the point of attack.

tl;dr don't mess with what's working. I'd be fine with having him utilized more often but don't change the approach.
PackFanWithTwins
8 years ago
For the remainder of this season, I think it is probably a good idea. Monty seems to sneak through smaller creases than Lacy or Starks have ever been able to do. Christian Michael may be able to do that also, but I need a bigger sample. But monty also is a much bigger impact in the backfield than he is as a Wide out where he is likely 4th on the depth.

If used correctly, he is a big Sproles.
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mi_keys
8 years ago

I think a lot of our lack of success in the run game has been... That we don't run the ball.

Originally Posted by: Porforis 



This comment I think was especially relevant early on in the year before Lacy went down. Lacy was averaging over 5 yards a carry. The media were criticizing his total yards but he was largely effective when he was running the ball.
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Cheesey
8 years ago
Lacy was coming on strong. It a shame he's out ,(and probably done here).
Monty LOVES bring a RB, so I say GO FOR IT!
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nerdmann
8 years ago
I think they're limiting Monty's carries due to his sickle cell condition.
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8 years ago
Ty may look the part of a RB but he isn't. The plays they called for him were not the same plays they called for Starks or Michael. If you are only going to look at his avg then let's say that Janis is the best rb because he has a 19 yd per carry avg.

Ty 5-6 times a game is fine. 15-20 times won't work.
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Zero2Cool
8 years ago
Sold! Jeff Janis should be RB!!!
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beast
8 years ago

Sold! Jeff Janis should be RB!!!

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I have said that as well... I'm not sure it's a perfect fit, but I think it's better than his fit at WR. I have felt like they should be moving him around until they find a better fit... weather that's at RB, TE (his blocking is more physical than some receiving TE), FS, or pass rush specialist... there has to be a better fit for him than WR... right?
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steveishere
8 years ago

Ty may look the part of a RB but he isn't. The plays they called for him were not the same plays they called for Starks or Michael. If you are only going to look at his avg then let's say that Janis is the best rb because he has a 19 yd per carry avg.

Ty 5-6 times a game is fine. 15-20 times won't work.

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Who cares about giving him 15-20 carries, we barely give Lacy 15-20 carries. The simple fact is our offense as a whole works better with Montgomery in the backfield than with anyone else on the team and probably better than with anyone else we could possibly acquire. If you wanna punch it up the gut use RIP but even if we use Monty differently (from other guys) he's still effective and that's what matters. Some of those extra runs with Monty are just substituted with short quick passes which have been effective so big deal. If Michael comes on a bit and picks up the playbook then good, between him Monty and RIP we've got a solid backfield but focusing the offense around having Monty in the backfield has so far had very good results.
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