McCarthy breaks traditional play-calling model

wpr
Preferred Member Topic Starter

8 years ago

With running back Eddie Lacy placed on injured reserve after five games, the Packers haven’t been able to run the football. It’s become taboo among some fans to complement, praise or otherwise credit McCarthy and his offense, but give him his due. He reacted accordingly to the lack of a running game.

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Wait a minute. GB has Montgomery. He is a RB. He is big and strong and quick and all those RB kinda things.

I guess no matter how badly the fans think Monty can fill the bill at RB he is still a WR who is able to play the typical RB position only a few times a game. That's why Starks got most of the carries last week even though Montgomery is a better athlete.

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Barfarn
Senior Member

8 years ago

Originally Posted by: wpr

Monty is on a pitch count because of the SCT, it has NOTHING to do with performance.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

8 years ago

Ty Montgomery looks like a RB more than James Starks lol

isocleas2
Member

8 years ago

Montgomery has 78 total yards on 15 touches in his last three games. Packers coach Mike McCarthy thinks that isn’t enough. He said Montgomery “deserves more opportunities,” and might have hinted at using a more balanced offensive approach going forward.

https://www.all22.com/green-bay-packers/packers-coach-mike-mccarthy-emphasizes-need-for-balance-says-ty-montgomery-deserves-more-opportunities
I was just reading a different article related to this conversation and found that bit above applicable. It seems to me Montgomery's sickle cell set him back otherwise the Pack would like to get him on the field more.

buckeyepackfan
Veteran Member

8 years ago

Ty Montgomery looks like a RB more than James Starks lol

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

Watching the game Monday, there was one play I remember where They were both lined up in the backfield, you could see where TY looked every bit as much as a running back as James did.

Starks has proven in the past when the weather turns bad he can be effective.
I'm betting we will see a different mix every game from here on out.
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Porforis
Veteran Member

8 years ago

If it's not injury related then I see zero reason not to give him more snaps out of the backfield especially in a two man set. Not even just for the run game, but for screens and a quick dump off option for Rodgers. Dude's got talent, use it.

wpr
Preferred Member Topic Starter

8 years ago

Ty Montgomery looks like a RB more than James Starks lol

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

Yes he does. It takes more than looks.

wpr
Preferred Member Topic Starter

8 years ago

Monty is on a pitch count because of the SCT, it has NOTHING to do with performance.

Originally Posted by: Barfarn

PITCH COUNT! Lol! That's the best reason you can come up with? Give me a break. 8 carries in 3 games is not a pitch count with only 1 carry last week. That is a change of pace WR playing RB. The REAL RB had 33 carries in the last 3 game incl 17 last week.

Even at that Statks isn't blowing anyone away. If Mikey thought for a moment that Ty could get the job done on a semi consistent basis he could have him carrying the rock 10 times a game. That would be a pitch count.

steveishere
Veteran Member

8 years ago

Monty doesn't get used as a WR either. He had what like 5 snaps the first 4 weeks without any sickle cell excuse to be made. Likely explanation is McCarthy still just really likes Starks more than fans do.

isocleas2
Member

8 years ago

#10

Originally Posted by: steveishere

I think there's some truth to McCarthy feeling more comfortable with Starks given his long history with the team.

But I think you give too little weight to Montgomery's injuries, his sickle cell condition can be fatal I have total confidence for a few weeks after his hospital scare he was heavily restricted. Also let's not forget how much time he missed with the ankle injury, I still think that was the primary reason he got so little playing time to start the season.

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