Zero2Cool
8 years ago
Even when someone says things completely bogus, I consider them and look at them as objectively as I can, such as the release Clay Matthews talk. I've often thought of Clay Matthews as a one trick pony, even though he is really good at that one trick.

Clay is scheduled to earn $15.2 million in 2017 and another $11.4 in 2018 which would be his final contract year.

If the Packers release Clay after June 1st, it looks like he'll count $4.1 million against the cap and that would give the Packers $11 extra.


As it stands now, the Packers are $25.2 million under the 2017 salary cap. The Packers will have unrestricted free agents, Julius Peppers, T.J. Lang, Nick Perry, Jared Cook, Datone Jones, Brett Goode, Eddie Lacy, Don Barclay, J.C. Tretter and Micah Hyde to re-sign with that $25.2 million.


None of these guys will break the bank, nor should they.
T.J. Lang - yes
J.C. Tretter -yes
Brett Goode - yes
Eddie Lacy - yes
Micah Hyde - yes
Nick Perry - yes
Jared Cook - yes
Datone Jones - yes


These guys are not worth re-signing.
Julius Peppers - no
Don Barclay - no


The Packers do not get any benefit from releasing Clay Matthews other than money that shouldn't be spent elsewhere. Looking at the pending 2017 free agents, there really isn't any one that is going to help make this team better while losing Clay in the process.
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Dulak
8 years ago
How much is julius peppers costing us? ... I love when he makes plays ... Dude is awesome with his strip sacks.

Ya even thou I really enjoy watching matthews play; seems I usually seem him on the sideline including the seattle champion ship last 5 min (bleep up).

luigis
8 years ago
Thinking about resigning Micah Hyde is a good indicator of a weak team.

Luis
nerdmann
8 years ago
Haven't you heard? Nick Perry sucks without Clay on the field.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
beast
8 years ago

Haven't you heard? Nick Perry sucks without Clay on the field.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



I don't think this is just Matthews, but having all the pass rushers available including Daniels, Perry and others... but...

With Matthews playing the Packers are 3-2 this season
With Matthews not playing... the Packers are 1-3

With Matthews playing, on average, the Packers have given up 19.2 points per game this season
With Matthews not playing, on average, the Packers have given up 34.5 points per game this season

That's more than a 15 point swing.
I'm not saying they need Matthews... but they need a couple of talented every down pass rushers. And talented every down pass rushers are hard to get. Might be easiest to just stick with Matthews and keep drafting pass rusher to build for the future.
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DoddPower
8 years ago

I don't think this is just Matthews, but having all the pass rushers available including Daniels, Perry and others... but...

With Matthews playing the Packers are 3-2 this season
With Matthews not playing... the Packers are 1-3

With Matthews playing, on average, the Packers have given up 19.2 points per game this season
With Matthews not playing, on average, the Packers have given up 34.5 points per game this season

That's more than a 15 point swing.
I'm not saying they need Matthews... but they need a couple of talented every down pass rushers. And talented every down pass rushers are hard to get. Might be easiest to just stick with Matthews and keep drafting pass rusher to build for the future.

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Yeah, I think Barbi Matthews is incredibly overrated. But the reality is that the Packers could use him on the field until they find someone as good or better to replace him. The same goes for Nick Perry. They aren't the best, but they are the best the Packers have to offer.
DakotaT
8 years ago
When Dom Capers gets fired at the end of the year they can bring in 4-3 coach and let Perry and Datone Jones play their natural positions of defensive end. Mike Daniels, Pennel, Guion, and Clark can rotate at DT.

Problem is Fackrell is a 3-4 OLB and wouldn't fit the defense.

It's still baffling to me that all these years attempting to play the linebacker showcased 3-4 defense, the Packers still haven't found the linebackers to play it. Epic fail.
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8 years ago
Not too excited about a player that spends nearly as much time in street clothes as he does in uniform. Pay him per game and I think they should keep him. He does generate double team which helps the overall flow of the defense. He, Peppers, knows how to make plays when needed. But even $8 mil is a lot to pay a part time player who doesn't who up every play when he is on the field.
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Zero2Cool
8 years ago

Not too excited about a player that spends nearly as much time in street clothes as he does in uniform. Pay him per game and I think they should keep him. He does generate double team which helps the overall flow of the defense. He, Peppers, knows how to make plays when needed. But even $8 mil is a lot to pay a part time player who doesn't who up every play when he is on the field.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



I thought the same then looked at facts. He's just always dinged but usually suits up and plays. Two seasons prior to this he played in each game. 2011 was healthy scratch for final game of season vs Lions. He's more durable than we perceive.
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TheKanataThrilla
8 years ago

I thought the same then looked at facts. He's just always dinged but usually suits up and plays. Two seasons prior to this he played in each game. 2011 was healthy scratch for final game of season vs Lions. He's more durable than we perceive.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



He played every game when he was at ILB. I worry his body can't handle being on the outside anymore.

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Mucky Tundra (5h) : Cowboys 1st round pick Tyler Booker will indeed be bringing his pet turtle to Dallas with him
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Mucky Tundra (5h) : beast, according the Falcons statement Jax came across it on an ipad. If I had to guess, probably an open spread sheet or something
Zero2Cool (5h) : Simmons put up an emoji with cheese.
beast (6h) : Not sure anyone is interested in Isaiah Simmons... Collin Oliver might of taken his potential slot
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Mucky Tundra (7h) : Colts 1st round TE Tyler Warren also got prank called, was that Jax Ulbrich as well?
Zero2Cool (7h) : Jax Ulbrich, Jeff Ulbrich’s son, released an apology for his role in the Shedeur Sanders prank call.
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TheKanataThrilla (26-Apr) : Sam Howell to Vikings...guess no Aaron
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bboystyle (26-Apr) : waiting for a pass rusher.
dfosterf (25-Apr) : 5 minutes between picks in the 3rd
dfosterf (25-Apr) : 3rd. Hate this phone
dfosterf (25-Apr) : 4rd
dfosterf (25-Apr) : 5 minutes in the 4
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