yooperfan
8 years ago
It's time for the Green Bay Packers Board of Directors to take the bull by the horns.
They need to fire Ted Thompson and Mike McCarthy.
They need to give the new General Manager a directive to TRY to trade Aaron Rodgers and Clay Matthews.
It's time!
Nonstopdrivel
8 years ago
How much would the Packers realistically get for Matthews at this point?
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shield4life
8 years ago
I keep saying for years and years ... Dom Capers defense doesn't work and will not work. We need a D coordinator! Two weeks in a row your defense gets burned over 30 points. That means your forcing your offense to score at least or equivalent of 5 td to win a game which is absurd!
Glad To Be A Packers Fan.
yooperfan
8 years ago

How much would the Packers realistically get for Matthews at this point?

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel 


Yeah really, he's not even worth the free ticket and the sideline pass he gets to watch games.

DarkaneRules
8 years ago
We just need a spark. We need one more guy to step the fuck up and make a play.
Circular Arguments: They are a heck of an annoyance
The_Green_Ninja
8 years ago

We just need a spark. We need one more guy to step the fuck up and make a play.

Originally Posted by: DarkaneRules 



Even a sports car sometimes need a new spark plug
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Zero2Cool
8 years ago
When Clay Matthews is not in the game, the Packers pass rush suffers quite a bit. Yet, fans are wanting him gone? Without Clay, it seems Nick Perry has fallen off. I can't imagine why that is.
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buckeyepackfan
8 years ago
LET'S BLOW IT ALL UP!
I want to see it happen !
I want to See some of you to really have something to hitch about!

It will be GREAT reading!

😄😄😄😄

I was addicted to The Hokey Pokey, but I turned myself around!
Porforis
8 years ago

I keep saying for years and years ... Dom Capers defense doesn't work and will not work. We need a D coordinator! Two weeks in a row your defense gets burned over 30 points. That means your forcing your offense to score at least or equivalent of 5 td to win a game which is absurd!

Originally Posted by: shield4life 



ST gave up a TD. The defense gave up 24 points to a team averaging 26 per game going in. ST also gave up a 60-some yard return. ST also missed a FG. The defense also got two picks. They kept Andrew Luck under 300 yards and with 1 TD, and kept Gore to 60 yards on 19 attempts. Minus the special teams blunders (and I'm not counting the 60 yard return in this because the defense had their chance to stop them), this is a 29-24 victory for the Packers. Expecting 5 TDs a game isn't reasonable. 4 is.

I honestly don't understand what more people want from a defense that can't keep their starters on the field. Even taking that excuse away, they're doing good (but not great) and certainly well enough to win.

People rail on the defense for always giving up monster games to individual receivers. Hilton has the best game, at 82 yards.

People rail on the defense for not getting turnovers. They get two picks this week.

People keep saying the run defense is just waiting to collapse and that they're overperforming. Again, the Packers run defense is great.
luigis
8 years ago
I want to keep Clay and Aaron. I think they are great players and you don't get rid of great players.

I was about to open a new thread but I think this will do: I'm convinced the problem is coaching and not the players.

Let's start with the easy one: Zook

Our special teams are a disaster, we have not made a trick play in eons, kickoff coverage is poor to horrible, punting is poor.
Zook's decisions are hard to digest, Mason can certainly kick it our of bounds but he is being asked to place his kickoffs at the 1 or 2 yard line. The idea of this is that you force the other team to return the kick and you might get them before they reach the 25.
So your coverage team is horrible and you think that this is a great idea? I'm speechless

Now Capers:

We can't stop anything when we need it, we have seen enough this season to know this is true. The players are constantly in miscommunication errors, there's a pathetic lack of adjustment during the games, there's no energy.
We've made Steffon Diggs a one-game superstar, we made freaking Blake Bortles look good.
You have to stop a long drive by Atlanta, just that and it is the only thing you don't do. Finally when everything is almost lost you put a LB to cover a WR at the endzone. Why is a LB in that formation at all?
Indianapolis was playing with a center at guard, a backup center and one of the worst left tackles in the league, you dial a zillion blitzes and you get to Luck.... twice!
Capers has evaded getting fired by getting very good results against very bad teams from time to time but has never produced a defense that will make good teams afraid.

And Mike:

Disclaimer: I really like MM and I think he is a brilliant playcaller sometimes but...
His decision to transit to a no-huddle vanilla offense was a disaster. We had a great offense and we became Oregon playing against NFL teams. It just doesn't work.
We have plenty of very special players like Cobb and Montgomery and the best idea you have is to make them backup RBs? Just imagine what Belichick could do with a guy like Montgomery.
Then you get it working against Atlanta to completely change it again vs the Colts, does this have any rational explanation?
The WRs were getting better against Atlanta so your next plan is to wipe them off the game to make Richard Rodgers our featured target, the same Richard Rodgers that misses most of his blocks, is slow as a turtle and has an average of epsilon yards after carry.
Mike already had his problems when he had his team together, he was absent-minded in game time decisions and was frequently outcoached but now he has also lost the team.

And together:

The Seattle NFC championship fiasco should have been enough to fire them all. Zook didn't "see" the fake punt when it was a very clear possibility, had his team unprepared and failed horribly in the onside kick.
Capers couldn't defend a series that was impossible to see, Wilson runs for his life, heaves a ball into the endzone and we don't get it? Burnett can score a TD and instead drops to the ground?
Mike got the game handed by Seattle mistakes he went as conservative as you can be only to lose the game.

And they survived that game to reach this?
Luis
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