Make a more compelling argument about Clay, instead of ridiculing us on what we see happening with Clay. I really hate having my fandom questioned, and I doubt I'm alone on this.

Also, I'm tired of watching Clay and Aaron make stupid commercials when they should be earning their contracts.

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I'm not exactly someone who cares about Clay that much, as I have already clearly stated. I just know he has some value to the defense when he's on the field. If you don't see that there is nothing I can say to convince you otherwise. I see it and the numbers support it.

Your fandom should never be questioned. Never.

While it's obvious the commercials have no bearing on their play, I agree, I would like it better if every time I turn on the TV I don't see some Packers player in a commercial. And so many of them have their radio show or TV show.

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The Packers defense will be fine when they get healthy. Having 2-3 more starter calibre CBs means Capers can get creative with the safeties again. Loss of Mathews is easy to see and I'm also one who feels he needs a paycut.

The offense is a bigger conundrum which won't be fixed until Rodgers and Mccarthy get on the same page. I thought the short passing game had snapped those two out of their funk but there's still lingering self shitting.

Rough day for special teams but overall this season the coverage units and Crosby have been alright so one bad day won't change my mind.

Even though this comment is off topic I felt the need to reply. I am only speaking for myself not the other mods.

I have been a little busy lately. I just walked in the door a few minutes ago. Today I was in Chicago to the hospital all day. My mother in law was suppose to have surgery only to have it cancelled due to an error on the part of her doctor &/or his staff. This happened after we waited almost an hour past the time for her surgery and then another 45 min in pre-op. So I am not sorry if you two boys are getting a little grumpy and having a pissing match. Both of you grow up.

As for the claims of personal attacks, I have said it before that I am not going to read every post. I am pretty sure the other mods are not going to either. That said if someone feels they or someone else has been the victim of a personal attack, the forum states they should notify the mods. If no one does then it must not be that much of an issue.

Along with that we are for the most part adults here. It is my feeling that people can mix it up a little bit. I don't feel that post that begins, "I can't believe you said that! Are you nuts or what?" is probably considered a personal attack but I won't baby people. That shouldn't hurt anyone. If it does then maybe message boards/forums are probably not the places for you to hang out. Saying something about their heritage or their momma among other things is a problem.

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Ya, I don't get the decision making at all. When something doesn't work, you have to try something different. When something is working, you continue to do that. I just watched this team go back to what was killing them on offense early in the season, rather than what has been putting points on the board the last 2 weeks.

Maybe a new coach would reel Aaron in when he goes into sandlot mode and ignores the short throws that move the chains. Not sure why he gets into that mindset, but good coaching keeps players focused on the game plan. I can only imagine how pissed his line must be at times - do a great job blocking, only to see him throw the ball into double coverage with virtually no chance of a completion rather than a 10 yard throw for a first down. If Mike (from what we can see) is ok with this, there is a serious problem.

Outside of HHCD - the secondary made few plays, especially when it mattered the most. Knowing that we are essentially fielding a practice squad at CB, the guys up front needed to create pressure - and mostly failed to do so. Sad when you have to bring a safety up to get significant pass rush against a mediocre OL. When they did get close, they would miss with poor tackling.

The list goes on.... and on.... and on....

The team looked dead in the water against the Colts. No spark, no anything.
They looked totally unprepared.
Someone needs to light a fire under their collective rear ends, or sit them on the bench.
If we are going to lose anyway, let some young guys play.

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