We saw late in the Packer game. Jaguars commit a penalty on 4th and 4, 10 yards replay at 4th and 14. On the play Packers get called for defensive hold for 5 yards, rather than being 1st and 10, it should have been 4th and 9.

No play should be an automatic first down if the penalty doesn't take them past the yard to gain line.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 

That is the normal justification for a spot foul for PI, But that also shouldn't be automatic unless it goes past the line to gain.

The same thing can be said about offensive penalties, Hold rather than let the QB get killed, the penalty is worth the yards. The deterrent should be the penalty itself. Another example wooudl be an offensive PI to break up an interception.

It doesn't balance, it like so much in the game favors the offense.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 

On 4th and 14, why wouldn't you hold if you got even the slightest idea that you might be beat? Hell, you could do it two downs in a row and still be in a decent defensive position. The idea behind penalties is to penalize and through the penalization, discourage illegal moves. Maybe make it 10 yards but no automatic first?

Originally Posted by: Porforis