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uffda udfa
Veteran Member Topic Starter

8 years ago

That's based on the premise that the news wouldn't have come out later, but I'm not sure I can get with that premise, especially with all the "insiders" on twitter these days, you know?

Originally Posted by: DarkaneRules

Right...but... if Sitton makes the team that's a show the Packers were willing to keep him...saying you're trading or releasing is saying...we don't want him and will take anything for him because we're getting rid of him, regardless. Having him on 53 says the exact opposite.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

DarkaneRules
Veteran Member

8 years ago

#22

I guess but trade rumors can surface at any time is my point, and they do. I just don't see how this is different even given the symbolic gesture had he been kept on the 53.

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luigis
Member

8 years ago

#23

I just want to say I'm in shock.

Luis

all_about_da_packers
Senior Member

8 years ago

#24

When it gets floated you are trading or releasing a player it is far more likely a team is going to wait for him to be released than to have to give up something to get him. Our comp pick for Josh is gone. Not Packers protocol at all.

Had we kept him we could've traded him tonight after he made the team.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

I think CBA causes issue with keeping Sitton and then trading him.

I believe Sitton's salary would've become guaranteed sometime really soon. Then you need a team to make a trade that can at least absorb about $6 million in salary.

Keeping Sitton past cuts and then trading him would've been really hard to do. Worst case: if you keep Sitton then you are on hook for his entire $6.5 million salary this season.

At least cutting him now gives Packers some cap room. Maybe the only silver lining in all of this depending on what plan-b is going forward.

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uffda udfa
Veteran Member Topic Starter

8 years ago

#25

Originally Posted by: all_about_da_packers

My recollection is salary isn't guaranteed until you're on the roster after Week 1. Had we traded him TONIGHT he wouldn't have been on the roster and played Week 1. I'll have to research that some other time.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

coltonja
Member

8 years ago

#26

What is surprising is TeddyT is usually willing to keep the player and turn it into a draft pick when the player signs elsewhere next year. $6 mil for an extra 4th round pick ain't bad.

Originally Posted by: wpr

Yes, exactly!

I'm totally fine with replacing Sitton with a younger player. Surprised it happened this season because of how well Sitton played last year, but we have the young talent available.

This point is what makes this move an unintelligible one for me. Why would Thompson not wait longer for a trade? What price was he not willing to accept? Surely even a 5th round pick is better than nothing. And we could assume he eventually would have received at least a 4th.

No matter what this is a huge decision that was made, and one that will likely have far more naysayers. If anything you've got to credit Thompson for acting out of conviction rather than the approval of the Packer faithful. I.e. he has some serious cajones.

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nerdmann
Premier Member

8 years ago

#27

That's Uffda and Nerdmann's MO's. I have much to teach my grasshoppers.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT

Cool family pic dude.

Sounds like they want to re-negotiate with Sitton. Otherwise, why not trade him? Guaranteed Ted could have gotten something.

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uffda udfa
Veteran Member Topic Starter

8 years ago

#28

Originally Posted by: coltonja

Trading just wasn't going to work...

If you trade you have to assume his contract or renegotiate it. Want to pay him 6 million for this year when you can watch him get cut and get him for millions less?

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

8 years ago

#29

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

And they would have had to cut someone they envision being on their roster. Getting a 6th or 7th round pick really isn't worth that. Not to mention how shady that would be to Josh Sitton. You ever think that maybe he was released so he could find employment AND to prevent the Packers from having to cut someone they want for the season?

No, you just run hysterically naked in the streets screaming the Packers are in chaos, chaos, KAOS I TELL YA!

Take some Xanax and let's ride this out together ... you know ... after you get dressed. 🤣

uffda udfa
Veteran Member Topic Starter

8 years ago

#30

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

You're advocating keeping the FIFTY FOURTH guy on the roster over Josh Sitton? You do realize Sam Shields is the only homegrown Packers UDFA who has ever amounted to anything?

This spin for the org is sad. How do you reconcile your initial post on this matter with what you're saying now?

It was a bad move when first heard about and it is hours, days, weeks and months later. Joe Callahan kept so we can part ways with Sitton because we really didn't want to part with a 3rd string QB?

BTW, that same last guy on the roster that you want to tout as so valuable to the team will be released in a heartbeat for a LS and a good DL, etc, etc, etc... this was a mystifying move.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

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