nerdmann
8 years ago

The impasse between the NFL and the NFL Players Association over the investigation regarding the Al Jazeera documentary containing allegations against four active NFL players lingers, with the league wanting to interview them, the union declining to make them available, and the league not yet saying, "The interview will occur at this specific time. Show up...

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We all know what's going on here.

Sounds like the Union has their backs, though.
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Zero2Cool
8 years ago

We all know what's going on here.

Sounds like the Union has their backs, though.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 




Yes, we know exactly what is going on. The Packers are confident their guys are innocent and want the interviews to conclude so it can stop being a distraction. And if they were guilty, the Packers would want to know sooner than later too. It's quite easy to discern what is going here and honestly, get it done and over with so we can move on and talk CAMP.
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Pack93z
8 years ago

Yes, we know exactly what is going on. The Packers are confident their guys are innocent and want the interviews to conclude so it can stop being a distraction. And if they were guilty, the Packers would want to know sooner than later too. It's quite easy to discern what is going here and honestly, get it done and over with so we can move on and talk CAMP.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



But why should they have to submit to interviews based on nothing but a recanted statement of one person?

Is it not enough to be tested randomly? Is it not enough to give a affidavit issuing denial, that would be more than enough to punish them if they are found to be guilty of something?

Basically, why should they have to be subjected to an interview process based on nothing but the words of a liar?

Where does it stop? If a rival team wants to distract a star on another team, based on this would be precedent, could they not pay a "journalist" to publish an article accusing that player of being dirty? They can publish it, recant it and sic the NFL dogs on them at will if that is all it is going to take to prompt an "investigation".

Yeah, I don't like the distraction... I "hope" there is nothing to it or at least they get the white glove Star QB treatment of Manning. Hell.. in that regard, they had delivery of HGH to at least prompt it being looked at. Not a thin accusal of written word, and nothing more.

In this case, I side with the players, it is an overreach on the part of the NFL to demand something out of the norm that another player would be afforded.. based on so little.
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Zero2Cool
8 years ago

But why should they have to submit to interviews based on nothing but a recanted statement of one person?

Is it not enough to be tested randomly? Is it not enough to give a affidavit issuing denial, that would be more than enough to punish them if they are found to be guilty of something?

Basically, why should they have to be subjected to an interview process based on nothing but the words of a liar?

Where does it stop? If a rival team wants to distract a star on another team, based on this would be precedent, could they not pay a "journalist" to publish an article accusing that player of being dirty? They can publish it, recant it and sic the NFL dogs on them at will if that is all it is going to take to prompt an "investigation".

Yeah, I don't like the distraction... I "hope" there is nothing to it or at least they get the white glove Star QB treatment of Manning. Hell.. in that regard, they had delivery of HGH to at least prompt it being looked at. Not a thin accusal of written word, and nothing more.

In this case, I side with the players, it is an overreach on the part of the NFL to demand something out of the norm that another player would be afforded.. based on so little.

Originally Posted by: Pack93z 



I opined where the Packers are coming from, not where I come from. The NFL does it's own testing (as you mentioned) and that should be sufficient. If their testing is not sufficient, they should do some self evaluation then, lol.

I believe the NFL should keep its nose out of things. If a player is accused of something, regardless of nature, they should keep their nose out of it until a verdict and appeals are exhausted. We (folks in general) should be innocent until proven guilty, not the other way around. Obviously not every situation is that black and white, but that's the starting point I feel that should be exhausted first.
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Pack93z
8 years ago

I opined where the Packers are coming from, not where I come from. .

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Yep... but I disagree with the Packers stance here. At some point you have to stand up for your players, not cower to the machine and Lord Goodell's overreaching ways. I happen to think LG picks his fights very poorly.

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nerdmann
8 years ago

I opined where the Packers are coming from, not where I come from. The NFL does it's own testing (as you mentioned) and that should be sufficient. If their testing is not sufficient, they should do some self evaluation then, lol.

I believe the NFL should keep its nose out of things. If a player is accused of something, regardless of nature, they should keep their nose out of it until a verdict and appeals are exhausted. We (folks in general) should be innocent until proven guilty, not the other way around. Obviously not every situation is that black and white, but that's the starting point I feel that should be exhausted first.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



If it's not sufficient, then they can renegotiate the CBA when it comes up again.
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PackFanWithTwins
8 years ago
I agree with the NFLPA and players not agreeing to be interviewed. Nothing good can come of it for them. I am not one who would be surprised if any player in the league tested positive. I pretty much figure they have all used if not currently at some point in their career. Pro athletes have "Using" down to a science. They know how much of something they can take, without exceeding the threshold. When a player fails, it is not because they started using, it is because they messed up their dosage.


If this is to much of a distraction for the players and coaches to handle, I think we need different players and coaches.

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