PackFanWithTwins
8 years ago

I think a lot more people voted for McCain and Romney because of the color of Obama's skin. I think much of the Republican obstructionism over the last 7 plus years has been because of the color of his skin.

Certainly some voted FOR him because of it too, but I think most voted for him on policy.

In the case of Hillary, why would any woman vote for Trump with his rhetoric? Why would any minority?

The scandals associated with Hillary notwithstanding, here's the important thing: For all her promises about how she's going to make America better, she has been closely involved with two administrations over 15+ years and in the Senate for part of the rest of the intervening 8 years, and what's been done so far? Why would anyone believe she'll change anything for the better?



Originally Posted by: OlHoss1884 



republican obstructionism has been nothing but a political ploy by democrats. And fools fall for it.
The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
Cheesey
8 years ago

I think a lot more people voted for McCain and Romney because of the color of Obama's skin. I think much of the Republican obstructionism over the last 7 plus years has been because of the color of his skin.

Certainly some voted FOR him because of it too, but I think most voted for him on policy.

In the case of Hillary, why would any woman vote for Trump with his rhetoric? Why would any minority?

The scandals associated with Hillary notwithstanding, here's the important thing: For all her promises about how she's going to make America better, she has been closely involved with two administrations over 15+ years and in the Senate for part of the rest of the intervening 8 years, and what's been done so far? Why would anyone believe she'll change anything for the better?



Originally Posted by: OlHoss1884 



That might be so, that some voted against Obama for that reason. But the 1st 4 years of his presidency did nothing. The big "change" he promised ended up with people only having "change" left in their pockets. So the fact that he got a second term I believe backs up my point even more.

Obama care has been a disaster. And he did it even though he didn't have the authority to do so. That's more like a dictator then a American President.
And Hillary? I agree with your points. We KNOW her record, so how can anyone expect anything good out of her? Again, I think she's hoping the female vote will get her through.
To me it's just more of this country circling around the drain......sooner or later, it will fall.
And for all those that fought and died for our freedom, that's REALLY a shame.
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Cheesey
8 years ago

There's a big difference between socialism and a welfare state.

Not leaving people with $150.000 in debt because they got a life threatening disease or would like to get an education is something completely different than having a planned economy.

Originally Posted by: Rockmolder 



The thing is, the whole "rob from the rich, and give to the poor" has never worked. It ALWAYS ends up being "rob from the rich, and fill their own pockets" and NOTHING changes.

And again, Obama care hasn't really helped the poor. The poor STILL can't afford "his" insurance. And Bernie Sanders won't change any of that.
As long as we have a corrupt government, that spends so much money foolishly, nothing will change. No one in the government has to account for what their area spends, and on what.
They don't care, as it's not costing THEM. It's NOT coming out of their pockets.
If the government was run like a business, maybe it would change. Actually have to account for every dollar spent, and for what.
But they treat it like their personal piggy bank, that they can just take take take, and not have to answer to anyone.
Until we have someone in office that will do so, the poor will remain poor.
And I have yet to see any candidate that will do that.
It's sad.
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DakotaT
8 years ago
I see the mensa convention is back on.

I'll just eat some popcorn, so I don't hurt anybody's feelings about their knowledge or intelligence.

I will say this though, compare the bench mark economy numbers between now and the end of 2008 for an accurate look at the Obama presidency. I think the investors in this country are quite pleased, and anybody else with pensions, regardless if they are a bigot or not.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiA7__1zZbNAhURPVIKHUfwAL0QFggcMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.factcheck.org%2F2015%2F01%2Fobamas-numbers-january-2015-update%2F&usg=AFQjCNHC3nxgfGtZw31gBrV6RoQyMTv7Jg&sig2=R0k_XRNR3LEy3XWPaKACDw 

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=5&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiA7__1zZbNAhURPVIKHUfwAL0QFgg6MAQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.politifact.com%2Ftruth-o-meter%2Farticle%2F2012%2Fjun%2F01%2Fscorecard-economy-obama%2F&usg=AFQjCNFznhN9gn1fgq6-tSnDOAX9NplbZA&sig2=n0qlGMNU6wnOfC0tGvhLGw 

And Obama had nothing but absolute obstruction from the other side of the isle. They must be so proud of themselves.
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PackFanWithTwins
8 years ago



And Obama had nothing but absolute obstruction from the other side of the isle. They must be so proud of themselves.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



Democrats and Obama are the cause of the "obstruction". But not surprised you can't figure that out.
The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
DakotaT
8 years ago

Democrats and Obama are the cause of the "obstruction". But not surprised you can't figure that out.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 



Because they don't let Republicans omnibus every bill? The presidents dictates the political agenda, not the other way around.
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PackFanWithTwins
8 years ago

Because they don't let Republicans omnibus every bill? The presidents dictates the political agenda, not the other way around.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



No the president Doesn't Dictate. Perhaps you are in the wrong country. Democrats have taken every chance they can to let something NOT get done blaming it on republicans until they feel they have gotten as much negative press for the GOP as they want. Then miraculously they let a deal get done.
The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
PackFanWithTwins
8 years ago


just what democrats want. People who can't think for themselves.
The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
OlHoss1884
8 years ago

republican obstructionism has been nothing but a political ploy by democrats. And fools fall for it.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 



Huh? Sorry, man, that's tinfoil hat stuff.
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