TheKanataThrilla
8 years ago

Given that I think the one player on Nerd's list here that are first round value (Billings) is going to be long gone by #27, I'm hoping that there's a trade partner, which may be wishful thinking on my part.

I think the best shot at a trade will come because someone needs to get a quarterback sooner rather than later and didn't want to spend what it took to get Wentz/Goff higher in the first but is willing to reach for Lynch, Cook, or Hackenberg. Yes, I mean you, Jerry Jones and John Elway. :)

Originally Posted by: Wade 



I am thinking the Browns may pass on a QB at #2, but try and move back into the first round ahead of Denver. This may work out well for us.
nerdmann
8 years ago

Given that I think the one player on Nerd's list here that are first round value (Billings) is going to be long gone by #27, I'm hoping that there's a trade partner, which may be wishful thinking on my part.

I think the best shot at a trade will come because someone needs to get a quarterback sooner rather than later and didn't want to spend what it took to get Wentz/Goff higher in the first but is willing to reach for Lynch, Cook, or Hackenberg. Yes, I mean you, Jerry Jones and John Elway. :)

Originally Posted by: Wade 



I've got around 30 names highlighted on my overall draft board, if we get one of those guys, I'll be happy.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
isocleas2
8 years ago
If the Packers get Billings/Johnson or any of the other highly regarded D-lineman I'll be happy. Everyone has been raving about the DL talent this year i'd be a little surprised if T.T. doesn't make one of them his first pick.
Yerko
8 years ago
Unless Billings or Rankins are available at the #27 spot, I am on the same page as you with the Jaylon Smith pick. He has experience in moving from position to position, playing outside and inside. He's fast and has great coverage abilities. He would be a slight liability in taking on offensive linemen in the run game (if he's playing inside) but the positives outweigh the negatives.

I think taking him late in the 1st spoils a lot of team's idea of letting him drop in the 2nd and taking him there.
UserPostedImage
TheKanataThrilla
8 years ago

I am thinking the Browns may pass on a QB at #2, but try and move back into the first round ahead of Denver. This may work out well for us.

Originally Posted by: TheKanataThrilla 



Browns trade away their pick #2. Now have an extra 3rd round pick #77.

I hope I am right that they may jump back into round 1 for a QB.
nerdmann
8 years ago
Here's my updated list of First Round targets.

statwhore 

UPDATE: 4/27/26, The Packers need DTs moreso than pure NTs. Raji retired, but they’ve got Guion and Pennell. Moving Datone to elephant means they have a shortage of DTs, so I’ve weighted my choices more in that direction. I’d still like a bookend, though. There’s enough depth at Dline to pick somebody up in a later round.

Jaylon Smith is still my fallback guy. If all my guys are taken, no one will give us value for a trade back, I don’t hesitate to pull the trigger on Smith despite the recent medical news that he is expected to miss the 2016 season. Otherwise, look for him in the third.

Of the guys who are likely to be around at #27,I like Noah Spence, Darron Lee, Kevin Dodd, Jarran Reed, Kenny Clark, Andrew Billings, Austin Johnson, Austin Hooper, A’Shawn Robinson, Chris Jones

Noah Spence: He’s had some youthful indiscretions, but seems to have pulled it together. He’s also got skills and he can get it done.

Darron Lee: This guy could easily go higher, but if he’s there take him. We need a bookend.

Kevin Dodd: Another book end type dude. Could go higher, has versatility as 4/3 DE.

Jarran Reed: This guy can get it done.

Kenny Clark: He’s got skills, but is kind of a “try hard” guy, nothing real flashy, just gets it done.

Andrew Billings: This guy can stuff the run in short yardage. SO sick of teams knowing they can get short yardage on us.

Austin Johnson: Another NT who could make our ILBs look much better.

Austin Hooper: Can’t ever have enough of these pass catching TEs. Apparently. I also wouldn’t mind Hunter Henry or Jerell Adams.

A’Shawn Robinson: He’s got skills but gets sloppy with technique. Takes plays off.

Chris Jones: Doesn’t always play up to ability. But he’s got plenty of ability.

But generally, any of the guys who are highlighted on my draft board.



“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
beast
8 years ago

Here's my updated list of First Round targets.

statwhore 

Of the guys who are likely to be around at #27,I like Noah Spence, Darron Lee, Kevin Dodd, Jarran Reed, Kenny Clark, Andrew Billings, Austin Johnson, Austin Hooper, A’Shawn Robinson, Chris Jones

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 




I think the question are you willing to trust Noah Spence the man, because he can clearly play at a high level, which is both the temptation and the problem.

To me, Darren Lee is a heavy SS, and smaller SS can be found later in the draft and might be some what close in coverage skills.

I'm not a fan of Kevin Dodd, his only claim to 1st round pick is that he had 7 sacks in his last 7 or so games. Which were mostly against RTs whose strength was run blocking and weaknesses in pass blocking. And some of them made Barclay's pass blocking look good. I think Dodd is a developmental 4-3 LDE.

Kenny Clark, I just don't see the high potential in him. Does he have the potential to be great?

I need to review Austin Hooper more, but I think he could be in the same boat as Clark. Hooper is very well rounded, but does he have great potential? Hooper's teammate WR Devon Cajuste doesn't have the blocking down but he has the size for H-back TE type, and possibly could be much better in the passing game and had later. Plus TEs have said blocking can be taught. (Though I disagree, that not everyone can be taught to block well)

I like most of the DTs, that are on the list.
UserPostedImage
nerdmann
8 years ago

Originally Posted by: beast 




I think the question are you willing to trust Noah Spence the man, because he can clearly play at a high level, which is both the temptation and the problem.

To me, Darren Lee is a heavy SS, and smaller SS can be found later in the draft and might be some what close in coverage skills.

I'm not a fan of Kevin Dodd, his only claim to 1st round pick is that he had 7 sacks in his last 7 or so games. Which were mostly against RTs whose strength was run blocking and weaknesses in pass blocking. And some of them made Barclay's pass blocking look good. I think Dodd is a developmental 4-3 LDE.

Kenny Clark, I just don't see the high potential in him. Does he have the potential to be great?

I need to review Austin Hooper more, but I think he could be in the same boat as Clark. Hooper is very well rounded, but does he have great potential? Hooper's teammate WR Devon Cajuste doesn't have the blocking down but he has the size for H-back TE type, and possibly could be much better in the passing game and had later. Plus TEs have said blocking can be taught. (Though I disagree, that not everyone can be taught to block well)

I like most of the DTs, that are on the list.



Spence: This team has a positive environment for dudes with checkered pasts. Fact is, we need a bookend, and we have all these years. Clay doesn't even REALLY have it anymore. We need someone who can attack the QB. If he's a little bit crazy, so much the better.

Dodd: Agreed, but Dom can't get enough of these 4-3 DEs who can set the edge against the run but can neither cover nor get to the QB. At least he can get to the QB, imo.

Lee: Also agreed on him, and he may be close to maxing out his frame, although I think he could reasonably get up to at least 230-235. Still, "converted safety" is a trend now, and he can cover.

Kenny Clark I just added, being that we need an end. He's a safe pick, A'Shawn Robinson and Chris JOnes have higher ceilings, but also lower floors. Our 3-4 system is for Dlinemen like Clark, we want them to eat up blocks and let the LBs make the plays.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
warhawk
8 years ago
I wouldn't take Smith in the 1st round. Too big of a gamble and likely to be there in the 2nd and not sure I would jump in there.
The other one I don't get on the list for me is Hooper. Everything I have seen is that he is the the 3rd rated TE and ranked no better on any top 100 board than 60th to 80th that I could find. Take him in the 2nd or 3rd maybe.

Out of the rest of the players on the list I see Ted Thompson drafting at least 3 players in the front 7 whether that's an Interior DL, ILB, OLB, or DE so most of those you have are good possibilities at 27.

Chris Jones is a gamble IMO. I have read where there are questions about his desire and commitment. Daniel's would either get that straight or eat him. Just not sure which. I would rather draft a few on defense with that fire in their gut like Daniels and let them feed off each other. I think they need that.
"The train is leaving the station."
steveishere
8 years ago
I wouldn't consider Kenny Clark just a block eater. The guy can live in the other teams backfield. His bull rush is one of the best I've seen from a DL prospect in any draft I've paid attention to. Would be fine with me if we nabbed him at 27
Fan Shout
Zero2Cool (19h) : rude
Mucky Tundra (19h) : RIP Frank Ragnow
Mucky Tundra (19h) : @E_Woodyard #Lions HC Dan Campbell says they're gonna put Frank Ragnow down this week. "We've got to be smart," Campbell said.
bboystyle (25-Sep) : Favre using the pitty card during that hearing for his criminal acts
Zero2Cool (24-Sep) : Former Packers QB Brett Favre recently announced he was diagnosed with Parkinson's.
Zero2Cool (24-Sep) : The only QBs this season with 0 turnover-worthy plays according to PFF (minimum 30 dropbacks) Aaron Rodgers Malik Willis Justin Fields
Mucky Tundra (23-Sep) : @DavidBearmanPFN · 18h Vegas has watched Will Levis for 3 weeks and installed them as a 1-point favorite in Miami next week. Let that sink
Mucky Tundra (23-Sep) : Martha, they did play much better with Dalton yesterday
Zero2Cool (23-Sep) : Test results on Sam Darnold’s knee showed a knee bruise and no structural damage. He is not expected to miss any time.
Martha Careful (23-Sep) : Not with Dalton apparently
Mucky Tundra (23-Sep) : Not sure what to make of the NFC South so far this season (outside of the Panthers being a dumpster fire)
Mucky Tundra (22-Sep) : of course I say that and then they overturn that play that put them on the 49ers 2 yard line
Mucky Tundra (22-Sep) : *without
Mucky Tundra (22-Sep) : Even with Nacua and Kupp out, Rams looking fiesty on offense
Martha Careful (22-Sep) : Tim Boyle is playing for the Dolphins
Martha Careful (22-Sep) : I love seeing Dallas lose
Mucky Tundra (22-Sep) : The Red Rifle is on fire in Las Vegas! 3 TDs in the first half!
Mucky Tundra (22-Sep) : @mattschneidman · 2m The fire alarm is going off inside the Packers locker room here in Nashville.
Mucky Tundra (22-Sep) : Gonna need a drink after looking at my picks for the early games in Pick'em
Zero2Cool (22-Sep) : James Jones. Y’all must not know, Dr. Mackenzie🤣 he was not going to let Jordan love play today.
Zero2Cool (22-Sep) : Malik to start. Love inactive. Per report. Let's go!!
buckeyepackfan (22-Sep) : I think J-10VE will be inactive, a little twist that could be put in is run a wildcat with Wicks at qb. Have him as emergency qb if needed.
Zero2Cool (21-Sep) : I think that's how it works.
Zero2Cool (21-Sep) : I'd go 3 QB regardless this game.
Zero2Cool (21-Sep) : Clifford was elevated, not activated. He doesn't play, it doesn't count.
hardrocker950 (21-Sep) : If Clifford is active, not likely to see Jordan play this weekend
Mucky Tundra (21-Sep) : QB Sean Clifford and CB Robert Rochell elevated from the PS for the Titans game
Zero2Cool (20-Sep) : Love questionable. Morgan is out. Valentine is doubtful
Martha Careful (20-Sep) : Rodgers and Lazard off to a very strong start
Zero2Cool (19-Sep) : Josh Jacobs. Limited.
Zero2Cool (19-Sep) : Can't find anything on Jacobs :(
wpr (19-Sep) : Do you know if they gave Jacobs an extra day off? I hope so.
Zero2Cool (19-Sep) : WR Jayden Reed (calf) and G Elgton Jenkins (illness/glute) returned after sitting out Wednesday.
Zero2Cool (19-Sep) : Packers are in pads and so is Jordan Love. Second straight day of practice for QB1.
bboystyle (18-Sep) : If Love comes back, we win in a blow out
Zero2Cool (18-Sep) : Jordan Love just spoke with reporters and said he’s giving himself the week but hopeful to play Sunday against the Titans.
Zero2Cool (18-Sep) : Practicing is Jordan Love!
Zero2Cool (18-Sep) : Packers are signing WR Cornelius Johnson to the Practice Squad per sources. Johnson was a 7th round pick this year.
Zero2Cool (17-Sep) : Packers placed RB MarShawn Lloyd on injured reserve.
Zero2Cool (16-Sep) : Rams won’t have Cooper Kupp or Puka Nacua when they host the Packers in Week 5.
Mucky Tundra (16-Sep) : Or is that the Rusty Red Rifle because of his age?
Mucky Tundra (16-Sep) : The Red Rifle Returns!
Zero2Cool (16-Sep) : Panthers are benching former No. 1 overall pick Bryce Young and starting veteran Andy Dalton beginning this week.
Mucky Tundra (16-Sep) : bears still have slim chance here
Mucky Tundra (16-Sep) : and there's another one!
Mucky Tundra (16-Sep) : oh crap macbob has the Texans K and he keeps hitting these long FGs
Mucky Tundra (15-Sep) : Hope the Texans beat the brakes off the Bears
Zero2Cool (15-Sep) : LaFleur: “I asked Malik why he didn’t throw it on that third down and he told me Josh threw up on the ball.”
Mucky Tundra (15-Sep) : i was wondering why it was just you, me, beast and macbob by the end
Zero2Cool (15-Sep) : Yeah it was weird today for some reason
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2024 Packers Schedule
Friday, Sep 6 @ 7:15 PM
Eagles
Sunday, Sep 15 @ 12:00 PM
COLTS
Sunday, Sep 22 @ 12:00 PM
Titans
Sunday, Sep 29 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Sunday, Oct 6 @ 3:25 PM
Rams
Sunday, Oct 13 @ 12:00 PM
CARDINALS
Sunday, Oct 20 @ 12:00 PM
TEXANS
Sunday, Oct 27 @ 12:00 PM
Jaguars
Sunday, Nov 3 @ 3:25 PM
LIONS
Sunday, Nov 17 @ 12:00 PM
Bears
Sunday, Nov 24 @ 3:25 PM
49ERS
Thursday, Nov 28 @ 7:20 PM
DOLPHINS
Thursday, Dec 5 @ 7:15 PM
Lions
Sunday, Dec 15 @ 7:20 PM
Seahawks
Monday, Dec 23 @ 7:15 PM
SAINTS
Sunday, Dec 29 @ 12:00 PM
Vikings
Saturday, Jan 4 @ 11:00 PM
BEARS
Recent Topics
12m / Around The NFL / Zero2Cool

56m / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

59m / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

1h / Random Babble / wpr

26-Sep / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

25-Sep / Green Bay Packers Talk / bboystyle

25-Sep / Random Babble / Zero2Cool

25-Sep / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

25-Sep / GameDay Threads / wpr

24-Sep / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

23-Sep / Around The NFL / Martha Careful

23-Sep / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

23-Sep / Featured Content / Zero2Cool

23-Sep / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

23-Sep / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

Headlines
Copyright © 2006 - 2024 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.