beast
8 years ago

Our 3-4 system is for Dlinemen like Clark, we want them to eat up blocks and let the LBs make the plays.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



I'm not sure that's correct. The block eating or two gaping defense is mainly with the conservative style of the 3-4 which Dom Capers does NOT prefer. Capers did run the conservative 3-4 style in in 2012 and 2013, but that was because he lacked the DL to run the more aggressive style which was proven in part by getting burned so often in 2011.

Now the true NT position still is asked to two gap, but their is only a single true NT on the field for about 30% of the time or less now?

Nickel/dime package defenses is getting on the field about 70% of the time, where the DL is asked to be more aggressive.
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nerdmann
8 years ago

I'm not sure that's correct. The block eating or two gaping defense is mainly with the conservative style of the 3-4 which Dom Capers does NOT prefer. Capers did run the conservative 3-4 style in in 2012 and 2013, but that was because he lacked the DL to run the more aggressive style which was proven in part by getting burned so often in 2011.

Now the true NT position still is asked to two gap, but their is only a single true NT on the field for about 30% of the time or less now?

Nickel/dime package defenses is getting on the field about 70% of the time, where the DL is asked to be more aggressive.

Originally Posted by: beast 



He does love those tweeners.
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isocleas2
8 years ago
Kevin Dodd and Noah Spence are the two big boom/bust picks we could go for imo. If there's a run on DL/Qbs and we can't get value in a trade back, I hope one of these two are left on the board and the Packers feel they're worth the gamble.

On the football field Spence obviously is the safer choice but OLB is less of an immediate need than DL and he's got his off the field issues. Dodd could end up being the best pass rusher to come out of this draft or have a similar career as Datone Jones, a tweener who never really gets established at any position on d-line.

http://www.sbnation.com/2016/4/26/11485394/2016-nfl-draft-scouting-report-kevin-dodd-clemson 

I found this article interesting, if Dodd can develop a power rush to compliment his wiper move, and if he can pass rush from DT in some subpackages I think Capers may blow his load thinking of the possibilities.
nerdmann
8 years ago

Kevin Dodd and Noah Spence are the two big boom/bust picks we could go for imo. If there's a run on DL/Qbs and we can't get value in a trade back, I hope one of these two are left on the board and the Packers feel they're worth the gamble.

On the football field Spence obviously is the safer choice but OLB is less of an immediate need than DL and he's got his off the field issues. Dodd could end up being the best pass rusher to come out of this draft or have a similar career as Datone Jones, a tweener who never really gets established at any position on d-line.

http://www.sbnation.com/2016/4/26/11485394/2016-nfl-draft-scouting-report-kevin-dodd-clemson 

I found this article interesting, if Dodd can develop a power rush to compliment his wiper move, and if he can pass rush from DT in some subpackages I think Capers may blow his load thinking of the possibilities.

Originally Posted by: isocleas2 



DL is more of a need, but it is also a much deeper position in this draft.
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