Who's going from Green Room to Green Bay?· Page 2

isocleas2
Member

9 years ago

Darron Lee or Reggie Ragland would be interesting selections since either could probably start at one of the ILB positions, maybe by mid-season they could be worked into nickel/dime packages as the solo coverage backer. I personally hope Jarran Reed, Vernon Butler, Billings, or one of the other DL is the pick since that's probably the other position on defense which a 1st round pick might be able to crack the starting line-up. So i'm going with

1.) Darron Lee
2.) Jarron Reed
3.) Vernon Butler
4.) Reggie Ragland

Favorite player not on the list: Andrew Billings aka the human wrecking ball. I know the Packers don't play a NT much in lieu of sub-packages but Billings may be the best one in the draft. If the Pack feel he could play next to Daniels on passing downs he's the guy imo. Very similar size to Daniels, both are listed at 310 with Billings about an inch taller.

wpr
Preferred Member

9 years ago

#12

You don't think Roddy White was a choice? I know I have that brilliant hindsight working in my favor here, but I gotta believe the Packers felt Roddy White was better than Robert Ferguson lol (ok ok my fingers are crossed when I wrote that!)

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

Do you really want to go back and analyze every draft pick that Teddy made? Or are you going to only cherry pick?

When someone makes a generalized comment there is bound to be an exception especially over a 10-12 year period.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

9 years ago

#13

Originally Posted by: wpr

When you said "Except for 2005 when he had no other choice.", you set the criteria so you can drop your 10-12 year period bit. I used my unequivocal, unmatched, brilliant hindsight wisdom to say he had a choice, example given was Roddy White ... a good talent (at the time and proved as much) at a position the Packers needed. Fact is the Packers had a choice and they made the right choice and they deserve credit for doing so rather than folks pissing on it as if they had a choice. Remember, no other Tedford quarterback amounted to crap at the time so sure we know Aaron turned out great, but no one had a damn clue at the time.

As for my selections, I'm rolling with I think they'll take DT Jarran Reed, Alabama but hope they take LB Reggie Ragland, Alabama because, hell, I think Packers are trying to be the Alabama of NFL!! haha

steveishere
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#14

Originally Posted by: wpr

An exception? lol. Besides Rodgers who you already brought up Hawk, Raji, Matthews, Bulaga, HHCD, and Randall were all expected to be 1st round picks. Sherrod, Jones, and Perry were expected in the late 1-2nd round range. I don't remember Harrell's prospect info but I remember a lot of surprise also remember reports of the Broncos possibly taking him in the 1st too though.

buckeyepackfan
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#15

I'll go with Reggie Ragland.
(Billings DT not on the list, probably was invited but declined, if Ted doesn't trade out Billings will be the guy!!!)

I was addicted to The Hokey Pokey, but I turned myself around!

wpr
Preferred Member

9 years ago

#16

Originally Posted by: steveishere

If I need to repeatidly explain myself I must not have worded it correctly. In the past I would have made post after post. Now I plan to let it go.
But I will say that I realize those players were all first round quality. That was not what I meant.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

9 years ago

#17

Originally Posted by: wpr

On the bright side, this time next week we'll have new players we can complain about not getting and that we did get, lol. Think positive, mate!

steveishere
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#18

If he's there I think Chris Jones. I would be happy with that pick, I'm not going to stress about whoever they do pick though even if it's a player I don't really like.

RaiderPride
Senior Member

9 years ago

#19

Favorite player not on the list: Andrew Billings aka the human wrecking ball. I know the Packers don't play a NT much in lieu of sub-packages but Billings may be the best one in the draft. If the Pack feel he could play next to Daniels on passing downs he's the guy imo. Very similar size to Daniels, both are listed at 310 with Billings about an inch taller.

Originally Posted by: isocleas2

Just for you Sir.. The words of Cris Collinsworth (Who I respect as an analyst and judge of talent.)

"27. Green Bay Packers: Andrew Billings, DT, Baylor

I would love to take injured Notre Dame linebacker Jaylon Smith here — it’d be like trading the No. 27 overall pick in this draft for a top-10 pick in 2017 — but I’m too chicken to not get a player at this spot who can help the team in 2016. So instead I’ll go with Billings, who fills a need at nose tackle following B.J. Raji’s retirement. He is a hammer in the running game who would protect the Packers’ inside linebackers by keeping blockers off of them, as that was a problem position for Green Bay last year (and Clay Matthews is being moved from middle linebacker back to an edge-rushing role). Billings was also surprisingly effective as a pass-rusher for Baylor, producing 30 total pressures, including five sacks, in 2015."

OK sorry for the interruption. As you were gentlemen.

""People Will Probably Never Remember What You Said, And May Never Remember What You Did. However, People Will Always Remember How You Made Them Feel."

TheKanataThrilla
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#20

If we traded back I wouldn't mind then burning a high pick on Jaylon Smith knowing we likely picked up another 3rd rounder at least to move back.

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