Rockmolder
8 years ago

wpr

Your unfulfilled dream for years has not helped the the Detroit Lions to become Super Bowl Champions.

Originally Posted by: PWT36 



And J.J. Watt hasn't given the Texans a Super Bowl, but I'd gladly take him.

I agree with WPR. I've been hoping we'd take a big time WR for a while, as well. Rodgers with average WRs is decent, but if you maximize his talent by getting something going like Montana to Rice, Brady to Moss or Manning to Harrison, you put an unstoppable offense on the field.

I'm pretty sure we're not getting someone like that in this draft, though. Both because of the positions we pick and the lack of WR talent in this class.
Porforis
8 years ago

And J.J. Watt hasn't given the Texans a Super Bowl, but I'd gladly take him.

I agree with WPR. I've been hoping we'd take a big time WR for a while, as well. Rodgers with average WRs is decent, but if you maximize his talent by getting something going like Montana to Rice, Brady to Moss or Manning to Harrison, you put an unstoppable offense on the field.

I'm pretty sure we're not getting someone like that in this draft, though. Both because of the positions we pick and the lack of WR talent in this class.

Originally Posted by: Rockmolder 



Until your Finley/Nelson/Cobb/whoever your #1 and #2 person gets blown up again and all of a sudden the unimaginative coaching staff are unable to make the offense work with lesser talent. Not to say I wouldn't love having a #1-3 talent at WR, but this team has NOT adapted well over the years to injuries on offense and I wouldn't want to let depth dwindle notably to get that talent. On the other side of the ball, we've had tons of defensive injuries but Dom always seems to be able to plug someone new in and minimize the impact. If nothing else that's why I love him as a DC. Minimizes the exposure of the weakest link.
Pack93z
8 years ago
I might have to agreed, we are without a massive screaming "need" to fill in the front end of this draft that would pigeon hole our options and force us to reach for a pick.

But like every team.. we certainly could use upgrades in certain areas, certainly second line depth players. I would like a better option or two on the edge Oline to develop. I would like a true 3 down impact backer in the middle... a guy that can thump yet run. I would like a fly speedster back that could be leveraged in space or is a threat to outrun the whole damn defense on any given play.

I would like to see a stretch TE to provide a size threat to the middle of the defense... vertical as well as shallow.

In the end.. I hope we see impact players added early... Randall at corner was an impact player... that is what I really would like to see out of the first rounder this season.. another player that can provide impact year one. Be it on defense or offense.. I really hope we hit early again. Then fill out the draft improving the depth of this club again.
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8 years ago

wpr

Your unfulfilled dream for years has not helped the the Detroit Lions to become Super Bowl Champions.

Originally Posted by: PWT36 



While what you say is true you have failed to consider that GB is not Detroit. After all we have the genius of Unc Teddy who scours the world looking for the best players available. We have the amazing Coach Mikey and his daring play calling abilities. But mostly what we have, as Rocky pointed out, is Aaron Rogers. If Aaron had Megatron running free this offense would have been the NFL equivalent of Shock and Awe.
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steveishere
8 years ago
Oh, all we need is one of the greatest receivers of all time? Should be easy enough I guess. We've had a top 10 WR in Nelson starting since 2011 season. Another awesome WR would be nice to have but as with anything there is give and take whether you are investing money or a high draft pick you are taking from somewhere else. I thought last year would have shown some people that while Rodgers is indeed an amazing QB he really doesn't just turn bad WR into great ones and he hasn't really lacked for weapons to throw to in his time starting here.
nerdmann
8 years ago

Until your Finley/Nelson/Cobb/whoever your #1 and #2 person gets blown up again and all of a sudden the unimaginative coaching staff are unable to make the offense work with lesser talent. Not to say I wouldn't love having a #1-3 talent at WR, but this team has NOT adapted well over the years to injuries on offense and I wouldn't want to let depth dwindle notably to get that talent. On the other side of the ball, we've had tons of defensive injuries but Dom always seems to be able to plug someone new in and minimize the impact. If nothing else that's why I love him as a DC. Minimizes the exposure of the weakest link.

Originally Posted by: Porforis 



It's much easier for one 6'5" speedster superstar to get injured than it is for 3 very good but not great guys to get injured, no?

Lots of coaches struggle when their rosters get decimated.

Don't put all your eggs in one basket.
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warhawk
8 years ago
I think this draft sets up well for Ted Thompson in that there is a lot of talented big guys on both sides of the line that will be available and Ted hasn't tapped in early in the last few drafts on interior linemen. Having said this I don't look at the draft as the place to go to put the Packers over the top. I think if your counting on rookies to be the difference between winning or not winning the SB it's probably not going to happen.

I'm not saying that rookies can't help or won't contribute to success because they have and hopefully will continue to do just that but I see other dynamics in play that are more important factors in the Packers winning the Lombardi.

First, getting some quality players back that were hurt like Nelson, Ty, and, Barrington. Lot of talent there and they need to be on the field.

Second, seeing a higher level of play from 2nd and 3rd year players. Randle, Rollins, Ryan, Rodgers, Abby, Janis, continuing to improve.

Third, bounce back year happens starting with the top dog Aaron Rodgers and includes Eddie Lacy, and Cobb. Way to much talent (and money set aside) for these guys to play like they did last year. Let's face it. If these guys don't bounce back and play like they can, and should, I don't care who they draft they aren't going to win.

I'm not asking for miracles here. None of the three things I have mentioned above are unreasonable to expect in any way, in fact, I do EXPECT these things from these players. Throw in a great year from a rookie or two would be icing on the cake.


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DakotaT
8 years ago

And J.J. Watt hasn't given the Texans a Super Bowl, but I'd gladly take him.

I agree with WPR. I've been hoping we'd take a big time WR for a while, as well. Rodgers with average WRs is decent, but if you maximize his talent by getting something going like Montana to Rice, Brady to Moss or Manning to Harrison, you put an unstoppable offense on the field.

I'm pretty sure we're not getting someone like that in this draft, though. Both because of the positions we pick and the lack of WR talent in this class.

Originally Posted by: Rockmolder 



I'm always amused at the opposition in this forum to the idea of getting a top tier talent for a passing offense like ours. It's like they want us to try and succeed with lessor talent to prove some kind of point. Mind boggling stupidity in my opinion, but hey, they apparently have a point to make.
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sschind
8 years ago

I'm always amused at the opposition in this forum to the idea of getting a top tier talent for a passing offense like ours. It's like they want us to try and succeed with lessor talent to prove some kind of point. Mind boggling stupidity in my opinion, but hey, they apparently have a point to make.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



And you wonder why people don't like you? With all your tact and people skills and all.


nerdmann
8 years ago

And you wonder why people don't like you? With all your tact and people skills and all.


Originally Posted by: sschind 



Actually, I'm the asshole of the forum.
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