Rockmolder
9 years ago

wpr

Your unfulfilled dream for years has not helped the the Detroit Lions to become Super Bowl Champions.

Originally Posted by: PWT36 



And J.J. Watt hasn't given the Texans a Super Bowl, but I'd gladly take him.

I agree with WPR. I've been hoping we'd take a big time WR for a while, as well. Rodgers with average WRs is decent, but if you maximize his talent by getting something going like Montana to Rice, Brady to Moss or Manning to Harrison, you put an unstoppable offense on the field.

I'm pretty sure we're not getting someone like that in this draft, though. Both because of the positions we pick and the lack of WR talent in this class.
Porforis
9 years ago

And J.J. Watt hasn't given the Texans a Super Bowl, but I'd gladly take him.

I agree with WPR. I've been hoping we'd take a big time WR for a while, as well. Rodgers with average WRs is decent, but if you maximize his talent by getting something going like Montana to Rice, Brady to Moss or Manning to Harrison, you put an unstoppable offense on the field.

I'm pretty sure we're not getting someone like that in this draft, though. Both because of the positions we pick and the lack of WR talent in this class.

Originally Posted by: Rockmolder 



Until your Finley/Nelson/Cobb/whoever your #1 and #2 person gets blown up again and all of a sudden the unimaginative coaching staff are unable to make the offense work with lesser talent. Not to say I wouldn't love having a #1-3 talent at WR, but this team has NOT adapted well over the years to injuries on offense and I wouldn't want to let depth dwindle notably to get that talent. On the other side of the ball, we've had tons of defensive injuries but Dom always seems to be able to plug someone new in and minimize the impact. If nothing else that's why I love him as a DC. Minimizes the exposure of the weakest link.
Pack93z
9 years ago
I might have to agreed, we are without a massive screaming "need" to fill in the front end of this draft that would pigeon hole our options and force us to reach for a pick.

But like every team.. we certainly could use upgrades in certain areas, certainly second line depth players. I would like a better option or two on the edge Oline to develop. I would like a true 3 down impact backer in the middle... a guy that can thump yet run. I would like a fly speedster back that could be leveraged in space or is a threat to outrun the whole damn defense on any given play.

I would like to see a stretch TE to provide a size threat to the middle of the defense... vertical as well as shallow.

In the end.. I hope we see impact players added early... Randall at corner was an impact player... that is what I really would like to see out of the first rounder this season.. another player that can provide impact year one. Be it on defense or offense.. I really hope we hit early again. Then fill out the draft improving the depth of this club again.
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
wpr
  • wpr
  • Preferred Member
9 years ago

wpr

Your unfulfilled dream for years has not helped the the Detroit Lions to become Super Bowl Champions.

Originally Posted by: PWT36 



While what you say is true you have failed to consider that GB is not Detroit. After all we have the genius of Unc Teddy who scours the world looking for the best players available. We have the amazing Coach Mikey and his daring play calling abilities. But mostly what we have, as Rocky pointed out, is Aaron Rogers. If Aaron had Megatron running free this offense would have been the NFL equivalent of Shock and Awe.
UserPostedImage
steveishere
9 years ago
Oh, all we need is one of the greatest receivers of all time? Should be easy enough I guess. We've had a top 10 WR in Nelson starting since 2011 season. Another awesome WR would be nice to have but as with anything there is give and take whether you are investing money or a high draft pick you are taking from somewhere else. I thought last year would have shown some people that while Rodgers is indeed an amazing QB he really doesn't just turn bad WR into great ones and he hasn't really lacked for weapons to throw to in his time starting here.
nerdmann
9 years ago

Until your Finley/Nelson/Cobb/whoever your #1 and #2 person gets blown up again and all of a sudden the unimaginative coaching staff are unable to make the offense work with lesser talent. Not to say I wouldn't love having a #1-3 talent at WR, but this team has NOT adapted well over the years to injuries on offense and I wouldn't want to let depth dwindle notably to get that talent. On the other side of the ball, we've had tons of defensive injuries but Dom always seems to be able to plug someone new in and minimize the impact. If nothing else that's why I love him as a DC. Minimizes the exposure of the weakest link.

Originally Posted by: Porforis 



It's much easier for one 6'5" speedster superstar to get injured than it is for 3 very good but not great guys to get injured, no?

Lots of coaches struggle when their rosters get decimated.

Don't put all your eggs in one basket.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
warhawk
9 years ago
I think this draft sets up well for Ted Thompson in that there is a lot of talented big guys on both sides of the line that will be available and Ted hasn't tapped in early in the last few drafts on interior linemen. Having said this I don't look at the draft as the place to go to put the Packers over the top. I think if your counting on rookies to be the difference between winning or not winning the SB it's probably not going to happen.

I'm not saying that rookies can't help or won't contribute to success because they have and hopefully will continue to do just that but I see other dynamics in play that are more important factors in the Packers winning the Lombardi.

First, getting some quality players back that were hurt like Nelson, Ty, and, Barrington. Lot of talent there and they need to be on the field.

Second, seeing a higher level of play from 2nd and 3rd year players. Randle, Rollins, Ryan, Rodgers, Abby, Janis, continuing to improve.

Third, bounce back year happens starting with the top dog Aaron Rodgers and includes Eddie Lacy, and Cobb. Way to much talent (and money set aside) for these guys to play like they did last year. Let's face it. If these guys don't bounce back and play like they can, and should, I don't care who they draft they aren't going to win.

I'm not asking for miracles here. None of the three things I have mentioned above are unreasonable to expect in any way, in fact, I do EXPECT these things from these players. Throw in a great year from a rookie or two would be icing on the cake.


"The train is leaving the station."
DakotaT
9 years ago

And J.J. Watt hasn't given the Texans a Super Bowl, but I'd gladly take him.

I agree with WPR. I've been hoping we'd take a big time WR for a while, as well. Rodgers with average WRs is decent, but if you maximize his talent by getting something going like Montana to Rice, Brady to Moss or Manning to Harrison, you put an unstoppable offense on the field.

I'm pretty sure we're not getting someone like that in this draft, though. Both because of the positions we pick and the lack of WR talent in this class.

Originally Posted by: Rockmolder 



I'm always amused at the opposition in this forum to the idea of getting a top tier talent for a passing offense like ours. It's like they want us to try and succeed with lessor talent to prove some kind of point. Mind boggling stupidity in my opinion, but hey, they apparently have a point to make.
UserPostedImage
sschind
9 years ago

I'm always amused at the opposition in this forum to the idea of getting a top tier talent for a passing offense like ours. It's like they want us to try and succeed with lessor talent to prove some kind of point. Mind boggling stupidity in my opinion, but hey, they apparently have a point to make.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



And you wonder why people don't like you? With all your tact and people skills and all.


nerdmann
9 years ago

And you wonder why people don't like you? With all your tact and people skills and all.


Originally Posted by: sschind 



Actually, I'm the asshole of the forum.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
Fan Shout
dfosterf (39m) : It's my one day deal complaint dept. on shareholder meeting day
dfosterf (1h) : Probably a homer access credential intimidation kinda thing
dfosterf (1h) : Meathead "journalists" skip this, concentrating on operational revenue when convenient. They switch when net revenue is more favorable.
dfosterf (1h) : Resulting in an actual drop of net revenue of 12.5%. She is from Minnesota. Just sayin'
dfosterf (1h) : Any plans to hold Maureen Smith (CFO) accountable for a 95% drop in investment revenue?
Mucky Tundra (2h) : In your face, HBO!
Mucky Tundra (2h) : @ByRyanWood Mark Murphy: “A great source of pride of mine is that we were never on Hard Knocks.”
Mucky Tundra (2h) : *years
Mucky Tundra (2h) : @mattschneidman Mark Murphy says he anticipates “many Packers games” being played in Germany, Ireland and/or the U.K. over the next 5-10 yea
dfosterf (2h) : *cafeteria* I have hit my head also, so I sympathize
dfosterf (2h) : Possibly hit his head leaning into the glass protecting the food in the cafateria
dfosterf (2h) : Maybe a low flying drone
dfosterf (2h) : Did Savion Williams run into a goalpost or something?
Mucky Tundra (2h) : also, no bueno when a guy starts getting concussions right off the bat in his career
Zero2Cool (3h) : Concussion is worse. Banks probably vet off day via back booboo claim
Mucky Tundra (5h) : @AndyHermanNFL Jordy Nelson out at camp today. No word if he’s in play for one of the two open roster spots ; )
dfosterf (5h) : Is that better or worse than Banks bad back?
Zero2Cool (6h) : Savion concussion ... not good.
packerfanoutwest (23h) : Aaron Rodgers’s first pass of first team period was picked off
Mucky Tundra (24-Jul) : tbh I didn't hear of his passing
Zero2Cool (24-Jul) : Cosby Show. Malcom Jamal Warner I think is real name
Mucky Tundra (24-Jul) : I was thinking of Ozzy and Hulk
Mucky Tundra (24-Jul) : Who's Theo?
Zero2Cool (24-Jul) : How is Theo alliteration?
Mucky Tundra (24-Jul) : Bad week for people whose names are alliterations
Zero2Cool (24-Jul) : Hulk Hogan gone too.
Zero2Cool (24-Jul) : Oh, it's toe injury
Zero2Cool (24-Jul) : Hope it's not serious. that would stink
dfosterf (24-Jul) : Sounds like an ankle not a knee for Fields
dfosterf (24-Jul) : Ya Flaccp on Browns
Zero2Cool (24-Jul) : Maybe Tyrod Taylor instead
Zero2Cool (24-Jul) : He's on Browns, right?
dfosterf (24-Jul) : They would probably go with Flacco is my guess if Fields out
dfosterf (24-Jul) : Fleece 'em again!
Zero2Cool (24-Jul) : Malik Willis might be someone Jets come after
packerfanoutwest (24-Jul) : Packers introduce 1923-inspired classic uniform, leather-look helmet
Zero2Cool (23-Jul) : Both LB Quay Walker and Rookie DB Micah Robinson have passed their physicals
Zero2Cool (23-Jul) : Happy to see site feels more snappy snappy
Zero2Cool (23-Jul) : No sir. I did not.
dfosterf (23-Jul) : You didn't get free childcare when you were at work?
wpr (23-Jul) : These guys make hundreds of thousands of dollars a year. Pay for their own childcare.
dfosterf (23-Jul) : 2nd issue. Number 1 issue was no gameday childcare. 1 of 3 teams not providing it
Zero2Cool (23-Jul) : Suppose if locker room is main issue, we sitting pretty
wpr (23-Jul) : I thought so Mucky. In those useless player polls GB always rates high overall. Locker is a part of it.
Mucky Tundra (23-Jul) : Wasn't the locker room just updated like 6 or 7 years ago?
Zero2Cool (23-Jul) : I have forum updated on different site. We'll see how this one goes before going to that
Zero2Cool (23-Jul) : Elgton Jenkins has a back injury, is expect to end contract dispute
wpr (23-Jul) : It's funny the PA complained about the locker room. It wasn't that long ago it was top shelf. Things change in a hurry.
wpr (23-Jul) : The site is much more better.
Zero2Cool (23-Jul) : NFLPA report said Packers lockerroom needed upgrade. Whining bout where you change?
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2025 Packers Schedule
Sunday, Sep 7 @ 3:25 PM
LIONS
Thursday, Sep 11 @ 7:15 PM
COMMANDERS
Sunday, Sep 21 @ 12:00 PM
Browns
Sunday, Sep 28 @ 7:20 PM
Cowboys
Sunday, Oct 12 @ 3:25 PM
BENGALS
Sunday, Oct 19 @ 3:25 PM
Cardinals
Sunday, Oct 26 @ 7:20 PM
Steelers
Sunday, Nov 2 @ 12:00 PM
PANTHERS
Monday, Nov 10 @ 7:15 PM
EAGLES
Sunday, Nov 16 @ 12:00 PM
Giants
Sunday, Nov 23 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Thursday, Nov 27 @ 12:00 PM
Lions
Sunday, Dec 7 @ 12:00 PM
BEARS
Sunday, Dec 14 @ 3:25 PM
Broncos
Friday, Dec 19 @ 11:00 PM
Bears
Friday, Dec 26 @ 11:00 PM
RAVENS
Saturday, Jan 3 @ 11:00 PM
Vikings
Recent Topics
2h / Around The NFL / Mucky Tundra

2h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

9h / Green Bay Packers Talk / TheKanataThrilla

12h / Green Bay Packers Talk / dfosterf

17h / Around The NFL / beast

24-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

24-Jul / Around The NFL / beast

24-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

23-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

23-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

22-Jul / Random Babble / Zero2Cool

22-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

22-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

20-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

20-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

Headlines
Copyright © 2006 - 2025 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.