Zero2Cool
8 years ago
I've been saying for awhile now that the Packers need to trade their 1st round pick and acquire more 2nd and 3rd round selections. Here's the statistical proof of this theory.








There is no sure thing in the NFL draft. No magic potion to unlock this riddle. Each spring, 32 teams beg to differ. They dedicate untold resources, devote countless hours, spend sleepless nights in pursuit of the draft’s hidden treasures.

Then the guesswork commences. First-round picks become busts. A sixth-round pick becomes perhaps the greatest quarterback of all time. March may have more madness, but there are plenty of upsets to be found in late April.


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nerdmann
8 years ago
How many of those did he lose to injury?
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8 years ago
I hate it when people evaluate drafts by the number of games played/started by draft picks. What I want to know is how many games played/started well. When you emphasize draft to the degree that Thompson does, you had darn well better have more games/played/started by early draft picks. You almost have to.

But what you really want is starters that played well.

For example, how many games did Thompson draft picks Moll, Spitz, Colledge, et al., et al., start. How many did we wish that the Packers had someone better starting?
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DakotaT
8 years ago
If only Ted Thompson could find more players like Nick Collins instead of all the Bustin Harrells he's drafted (and I don't care how they got injured), he'd be the greatest GM ever. Unfortunately there have been a lot of wasted picks in high rounds by Ted. He's still better than most. You really have to wonder why fans of more teams don't rip their GM's for letting a guy like Aaron Rodgers fall to 23 in the draft. I guess Packers fans are more passionate about their teams.
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TheKanataThrilla
8 years ago
Now I am glad to try and trade back an manipulate more 2nd round picks. My brain was telling me what these tweets were confirming. Ted loves to #2. Su'a, Shepard, and a DT or OT. C'mon Ted let's get it done.
beast
8 years ago

So what you're saying it, Ted Thompson should trade his 1st and 3rd for two more 2nd round picks?

Rams and Patriots both have two 2nd round picks that they could possibly trade.
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TheKanataThrilla
8 years ago

So what you're saying it, Ted Thompson should trade his 1st and 3rd for two more 2nd round picks?

Rams and Patriots both have two 2nd round picks that they could possibly trade.

Originally Posted by: beast 



Or the scenario that we trade the #1 and use the other pick(s) to move back into the second round.
if a guy we like is still on the board.

yooperfan
8 years ago
I have been a proponent of Ted doing this for a long time.
I've felt that he is better in the 2nd round but this is the first "statistical" evidence I have seen "confirming"
my hypothesis.
Zero2Cool
8 years ago

For example, how many games did Thompson draft picks Moll, Spitz, Colledge, et al., et al., start. How many did we wish that the Packers had someone better starting?

Originally Posted by: Wade 



Jason Spitz last played for the Packers during the 2010 season. Daryn Colledge last played for the Packers during the 2010 season. When was the last time the Packers won the Super Bowl? Oh, yeah, 2010!!

I hate it when a team gets players that work together better as a team than individuals. I mean, who the hell wants to win the Super Bowl? Let's just pile up "Pro Bowl" individuals and collect the paper trophies!
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Rockmolder
8 years ago

Jason Spitz last played for the Packers during the 2010 season. Daryn Colledge last played for the Packers during the 2010 season. When was the last time the Packers won the Super Bowl? Oh, yeah, 2010!!

I hate it when a team gets players that work together better as a team than individuals. I mean, who the hell wants to win the Super Bowl? Let's just pile up "Pro Bowl" individuals and collect the paper trophies!

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I'm not really sure what your point is. We should be okay with sub-par guards because we won a Super Bowl in 2011?

With Clifton staying healthy, Wells at the top of his game, Sitton being Sitton and Bulaga having a really good rookie season, we had quite an O-line in place. I'm positive it would've been even better, had we had another decent guard, rather than Colledge.
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