nerdmann
8 years ago

Mel Kiper Jr. sticking with pass-rusher for Packers in first round

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I've got this guy on my board for the 4th round. Lol still researching tho, I'm open to alternative views.

It's my primary position of need, though.
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DarkaneRules
8 years ago
Haven't heard a lot about the guy he's picking at all. Perhaps he is expecting a run on OLBs?
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8 years ago
Like you I put Correa in the fourth. I might stretch with the third (since weird astrology or something might mean he is BPA by that point), but in the first? No way.

It would have to be a really big run. OLB is pretty deep with lots of talent at fourth round and above, though. I have a real hard time imagining a better OLB not being available both late second and late third.

Drafting Correa in the first would be a bigger stretch than Jon Michels was. It would be like Minnesota going with that Underwood guy. The only Packer comparative I can think of that's bigger in terms of the number of spots stretched is when Thompson stretched for Khyri Thornton or maybe for that safety from Maine whose name I can't remember.
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DarkaneRules
8 years ago
I know nothing about draft stock but even I was left scratching my head with the pick of Thornton.
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Zero2Cool
8 years ago

I know nothing about draft stock but even I was left scratching my head with the pick of Thornton.

Originally Posted by: DarkaneRules 



You and Mel are in the same boat. The difference is he gets paid to make a plethora of "Mock" drafts and I use quotes because what they really are is a paper trail to say "Oh, they took (insert any player here), I think I had him in my Mock version 340,923 going to them definitely not surprised by this pick".

Anyone who puts out more than one Mock draft is dead to me. D-E-A-D!
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Like you I put Correa in the fourth. I might stretch with the third (since weird astrology or something might mean he is BPA by that point), but in the first? No way.

It would have to be a really big run. OLB is pretty deep with lots of talent at fourth round and above, though. I have a real hard time imagining a better OLB not being available both late second and late third.

Drafting Correa in the first would be a bigger stretch than Jon Michels was. It would be like Minnesota going with that Underwood guy. The only Packer comparative I can think of that's bigger in terms of the number of spots stretched is when Thompson stretched for Khyri Thornton or maybe for that safety from Maine whose name I can't remember.

Originally Posted by: Wade 



Looks like Walters  agrees with you. Well done young man.

11. Kamalei Correa*, OLB, Boise State
Height: 6-2. Weight: 243. Arm: 31.63.
40 Time: 4.69.
Projected Round (2016): 3-5.
3/11/16: Correa is an edge defender who will have to get stronger for the NFL if he is going to stay on the edge. He totaled 39 tackles with 11 for a loss, seven sacks and three forced fumbles in 2015. His best season came as a sophomore when he notched 59 tackles, 19 for a loss, two forced fumbles, and 12 sacks. The junior's best fit could come as an inside/outside linebacker in a 3-4 defense. He had an impressive workout at the combine.



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You and Mel are in the same boat. The difference is he gets paid to make a plethora of "Mock" drafts and I use quotes because what they really are is a paper trail to say "Oh, they took (insert any player here), I think I had him in my Mock version 340,923 going to them definitely not surprised by this pick".

Anyone who puts out more than one Mock draft is dead to me. D-E-A-D!

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I don't do any drafts so I am not defending multiple versions because I do them as well. That said I don't mind if people make more than one. I like to check on them a few times after GB loses in the first round of the playoffs to see what others are saying so Packers Inc can fix what is wrong and get back the the SB.

It only makes sense to revise a mock draft because teams are going to pick up FAs and their draft needs change. That makes different players available for the teams who draft in the mid 20's and later. The bares needed ILB as well. Some early drafts had them filling that need int he draft. It makes no sense for them to do so now.

With all that said Mel is a tool and I have no doubt he makes so many selections to hedge his bet. That he is advocating Correa is not such a surprise when you realize Uncle Teddy is smarter than everyone else and he loves to pick a player 2-3 rounds earlier than any one else just to prove that he is running the show.
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8 years ago
I dont do mocks....because I can't be bothered to worry about what other teams' needs/draft practices are except in general terms of whether players I want to be available for GB might be interesting to some of them.

For the first time, however, I'm actually putting together a "big board". (If I can get it done before the draft starts, and figure out how to post spreadsheet data here of approx 10 players per 12 position columns split by half round (rounds 1,2,3A) or full round (rounds 3B-7)).

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8 years ago

I dont do mocks....because I can't be bothered to worry about what other teams' needs/draft practices are except in general terms of whether players I want to be available for GB might be interesting to some of them.

For the first time, however, I'm actually putting together a "big board". (If I can get it done before the draft starts, and figure out how to post spreadsheet data here of approx 10 players per 12 position columns split by half round (rounds 1,2,3A) or full round (rounds 3B-7)).

Who needs sleep?

Originally Posted by: Wade 



Nice. I go to some online board either ESPN or CBS or someone else, print it out and cross them off as the day goes on.
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Zero2Cool
8 years ago

I don't do any drafts so I am not defending multiple versions because I do them as well. That said I don't mind if people make more than one. I like to check on them a few times after GB loses in the first round of the playoffs to see what others are saying so Packers Inc can fix what is wrong and get back the the SB.

It only makes sense to revise a mock draft because teams are going to pick up FAs and their draft needs change. That makes different players available for the teams who draft in the mid 20's and later. The bares needed ILB as well. Some early drafts had them filling that need int he draft. It makes no sense for them to do so now.

With all that said Mel is a tool and I have no doubt he makes so many selections to hedge his bet. That he is advocating Correa is not such a surprise when you realize Ted is smarter than everyone else and he loves to pick a player 2-3 rounds earlier than any one else just to prove that he is running the show.

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Why the hell even do a mock draft before the combine and pro days which are after the start of free agency? It makes no damn sense! Oh look at me! I am throwing out ANOTHER mock draft because a player was signed!!

I used to find entertainment in mocks, but now every prick with a keyboard is shoving version 1-34,000 down our throats. Give me a TOP PROSPECTS list by position and overall and THAT is valuable because prospects can rise/fall with fluidity. To think an outsider has a damn clue what any, (let alone ALL 32 teams) needs are or salary cap thinking or inside information ... preposterous.

I respect mock drafts in the light of it being their opinion. The massive amount of "do-overs" err sorry mock VERSIONS is appalling.
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