MintBaconDrivel
9 years ago
What degree of responsibility does this knee issue have with how he performed?

Aaron Rodgers remains on track to work out with minimal or no limitations when the Green Bay Packers quarterback returns for the start of the offseason program next month.

According to a source at the NFL annual meetings, Rodgers’ recovery from his offseason knee surgery has gone off without any setbacks. The source said Rodgers has been “running around.”

“I don’t see any reason why he won’t be ready,” the source said.

Continue Reading @ ESPN 

ESPN wrote:


Delivering the latest and most important updates on the Green Bay Packers for your convenience.
UserPostedImage
Bigbyfan
9 years ago
The inability of his receivers to get open led to his performance. The lack of running game with doughboy Lacy led to his performance. The revolving door at LT led to his performance. The stubborn play calling led to his performance. Don't really think this knee had much to do with it.

Of course if certain people had their way, Rodgers would've been benched in favor of Tolzien lol.
blank
Pack93z
9 years ago

The inability of his receivers to get open led to his performance. The lack of running game with doughboy Lacy led to his performance. The revolving door at LT led to his performance. The stubborn play calling led to his performance. Don't really think this knee had much to do with it.

Of course if certain people had their way, Rodgers would've been benched in favor of Tolzien lol.

Originally Posted by: Bigbyfan 



While some of it lays at the feet of his targets, Aaron lacked the accuracy that he is known for. I personally thought he was playing hurt, maybe it was his knee. Maybe it was something else, but there was something effecting the way he was delivering the ball.


Oh... and Aaron... I have a box full of extra knee parts if you should need some. Springs, pistons and electronics mate.
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
wpr
  • wpr
  • Preferred Member
9 years ago

While some of it lays at the feet of his targets, Aaron lacked the accuracy that he is known for. I personally thought he was playing hurt, maybe it was his knee. Maybe it was something else, but there was something effecting the way he was delivering the ball.


Oh... and Aaron... I have a box full of extra knee parts if you should need some. Springs, pistons and electronics mate.

Originally Posted by: Pack93z 



I can't believe how many times his throws were so far off target. They weren't all lack of separation issues because some times AR was missing out of bounds.

Are your replacement parts for the correct knee?
UserPostedImage
Barfarn
9 years ago

What degree of responsibility does this knee issue have with how he performed?

Originally Posted by: MintBaconDrivel 



From a physical perspective any injury that only required a scope could in no way account for his despicable putrid play. Remember: In last 10 games, if we take away Rodgers' garbage time stats [GB way down, D's in prevent and the game was effectively over], Rodgers' Passer rating was around 45! FORTY-FIVE! This is far worse than Tolzien and worse than 90% of the 90 or so QBs that were in the NFL in 2015.

Also, if Rodgers was physically hurt one would expect the physical performance to be consistently affected; that he would not have had close to perfect passer ratings while racking up these garbage time stats.

But, psychologically it could explain everything. Assuming the injury did not occur in the last game; maybe it occurred in 1st half of SD game. He gets evaluated at half time and they discover a small tear; goes back into the game and sucks. That week he undergoes more extensive tests and they tell him he has a tear and if he takes care of it; he can get through the season. Very unsure of the knee, he plays like shit at Denver. Oh and again, the idea that as Adams and Cobb became healthier they suddenly couldn't separate; this is raging bullshit denial and not substantiated by the tape [BTW, ya gotta compare 2014 to 2015 and you'll see the receivers were no more or less open].

Rodgers' MVP play is due primarily to his razor-like singular focus on mentally processing play. But what if before every play, he thinks, "gotta be smart and protect my knee." Or every time he plants or sees DEs not being pancaked by his OTs, he's thinking, "gotta protect the knee." Or maybe every time he steps or plants and there is a twinge or a click he wonders if he's done for the year. And then on the next 6-12 plays after feeling the click or twinge, he's wondering if it is going to twinge or click again as he sets or moves. All of this psychological attention on the knee would explain why he sucked as a QB; it negated his greatest strength as a QB.

And then once down by 17 or 24, his competitive juices and adrenaline flow and he gets pissed and doesn't give a damn if his knee falls off; he is going to win this game. With his singular focus off the knee and back on QBing stuff-he's MVP again. It is not because his receivers suddenly and temporarily re-learned how to get open.
beast
9 years ago

What degree of responsibility does this knee issue have with how he performed?

Originally Posted by: MintBaconDrivel 



I think it was HUGE! ... don't get me wrong, the rest of the offense didn't play great, and some games the OL played like shit, other games the WR played like shit, but even if you look at just Rodgers only when the OL and WR did a good enough job... he wasn't his normal self. He was above average... which is extremely low for Rodgers. Put it this way from 2009 to 2014 his lowest QB rating was 101.2, in 2015 it was 92.7....

People say the WRs couldn't get open deep... and the truth is they did struggle at it... but there where way to many times where a WR would get open deeper, (especially James Jones using great route running to fool/trick a DBs and get a number of steps on the CBs) and Rodgers would either clearly overthrow everybody even the deep Safety in the middle of the field or he'd under throw it, forcing the WR to come back and battle the CB for the ball.

Normally it would of been a 20+ yard catch and what ever YAC the WR might of been able to get... but instead it ended up with the ball on the ground and in comes the punter.


Of course I don't know it was the knee, but something was clearly off with Rodgers accuracy last year, even when he got good blocking and WRs were getting reasonable open...

But it could of been other factors

- I don't buy into this one, but some people have suggested Rodgers accuracy was off while on the field, because Miss Olivia Munn is turning him on while off the field.

- One I buy more into is that during training camp, all the reports were going NUTS over how often the DBs were getting their hands on Rodgers passes, as normally DBs rarely ever touched Rodgers passes, not even Woodson, Harris and Williams... but all of sudden all these young DBs were all over Rodgers passes knocking them away. Turns out, Rodgers told the press that he's intentionally throwing the passes a bit off target with the purpose of teaching/training the WRs to fight/adjust to the ball, because when the real games come his passes aren't going to be perfect and they're going to have to do a better job of adjusting and fighting for the balls.

Well to go back to one of Vince Lombardi: "Practice does not make perfect. Only perfect practice makes perfect."

So when Rodgers was practicing perfect, he was close to perfect in games.
When Rodgers was intentionally throwing off in an attempt to help others for their future games, he was far from perfect in games.

Maybe Rodgers should go back to practicing perfect and leave the adjusting to balls and fighting for the ball to the WR coach to worry about. Just a thought...


UserPostedImage
UserPostedImage
beast
9 years ago

What degree of responsibility does this knee issue have with how he performed?

Originally Posted by: MintBaconDrivel 



I think it was HUGE! ... don't get me wrong, the rest of the offense didn't play great, and some games the OL played like shit, other games the WR played like shit, but even if you look at just Rodgers only when the OL and WR did a good enough job... he wasn't his normal self. He was above average... which is extremely low for Rodgers. Put it this way from 2009 to 2014 his lowest QB rating was 101.2, in 2015 it was 92.7....

People say the WRs couldn't get open deep... and the truth is they did struggle at it... but there where way to many times where a WR would get open deeper, (especially James Jones using great route running to fool/trick a DBs and get a number of steps on the CBs) and Rodgers would either clearly overthrow everybody even the deep Safety in the middle of the field or he'd under throw it, forcing the WR to come back and battle the CB for the ball.

Normally it would of been a 20+ yard catch and what ever YAC the WR might of been able to get... but instead it ended up with the ball on the ground and in comes the punter.


Of course I don't know it was the knee, but something was clearly off with Rodgers accuracy last year, even when he got good blocking and WRs were getting reasonable open...

But it could of been other factors

- I don't buy into this one, but some people have suggested Rodgers accuracy was off while on the field, because Miss Olivia Munn is turning him on while off the field.

- One I buy more into is that during training camp, all the reports were going NUTS over how often the DBs were getting their hands on Rodgers passes, as normally DBs rarely ever touched Rodgers passes, not even Woodson, Harris and Williams... but all of sudden all these young DBs were all over Rodgers passes knocking them away. Turns out, Rodgers told the press that he's intentionally throwing the passes a bit off target with the purpose of teaching/training the WRs to fight/adjust to the ball, because when the real games come his passes aren't going to be perfect and they're going to have to do a better job of adjusting and fighting for the balls.

Well to go back to one of Vince Lombardi: "Practice does not make perfect. Only perfect practice makes perfect."

So when Rodgers was practicing perfect, he was close to perfect in games.
When Rodgers was intentionally throwing off in an attempt to help others for their future games, he was far from perfect in games.

Maybe Rodgers should go back to practicing perfect and leave the adjusting to balls and fighting for the ball to the WR coach to worry about. Just a thought...


UserPostedImage
UserPostedImage
Fan Shout
Zero2Cool (13h) : one day contract, which he also feels is pointless, but if Packers came to him, he would
packerfanoutwest (13h) : Aaron Rodgers talks possibility of retiring with Packers, just another rumor
dfosterf (27-May) : Go watch 2001
Zero2Cool (26-May) : 1984
dfosterf (26-May) : That movie sent a chill through many. 1968.
dfosterf (26-May) : "Open the pod bay doors, HAL"
buckeyepackfan (25-May) : Haven't we all seen thus movie? It doesn't end well!! Lol
Zero2Cool (25-May) : lol Anthropic’s new AI model turns to blackmail when engineers try to take it offline
dfosterf (25-May) : Claude Opus 4
dfosterf (25-May) : AI system resorts to blackmail when its developers threaten to take it offline
beast (22-May) : Colts Owner Jim Irsay has passed away
Zero2Cool (21-May) : Well, emailing should work now. After not working for almost a year. Oops.
Zero2Cool (21-May) : Brotherly Shove did not get enough votes.
Zero2Cool (20-May) : lol our email hasn't worked in months. 7 pages of unverified users
Zero2Cool (20-May) : MySpace Screaming Lord Byron ... Brett Favre.
Zero2Cool (19-May) : Packers have signed first-round pick Matthew Golden, leaving second-round tackle Anthony Belton as their only unsigned draft pick
beast (19-May) : Supposedly he has to take his image, and name off of it... but otherwise could keep selling wine if he wanted to.
Zero2Cool (19-May) : he giving up his win business?
beast (19-May) : Speaking of Woodson, sounds like he'll be a minority owner (0.1%) of the Browns
Mucky Tundra (15-May) : Zero, regarding Woodson, that'd why I find the timing with Williams peculiar
dfosterf (15-May) : Ryan Hall y'all does a great job of tracking thesr
Zero2Cool (15-May) : Fear not!! I planned to do 33mi bike ride tomorrow morning, so ... yeah
Zero2Cool (15-May) : We got some dark clouds and nasty winds right bout now.
Zero2Cool (15-May) : Madison they had hail 4pm.
dfosterf (15-May) : Sure looks like these tornadoes are headed towards Green Bay
Zero2Cool (15-May) : Woodson of Charles fame was reluctant and then loved it. that didn't really come out until post career
Mucky Tundra (15-May) : IE "We bought into the Bears and they let us down, we have no choice to seek alternatives"
Mucky Tundra (15-May) : Or that Williams and his family are preparing an exit ramp if they don't like how things are going in a few years
Mucky Tundra (15-May) : Either Williams thought it would make him look good (reluctant but then embraces the city and franchise)
Mucky Tundra (15-May) : I can only assume that the Williams camp agreed to cooperate with that article tells me 2 things
dfosterf (15-May) : Ya. They are in a great mood
Zero2Cool (15-May) : I should visit again
dfosterf (15-May) : ChiCity Sports entering freakout mode due to Caleb and his dad not wanting him to go there
Zero2Cool (15-May) : "He's looking really good out there," Derrick Ansley said of Kalen King. Adds that he's been playing inside and out.
Zero2Cool (15-May) : Him saying he doesn't have one to give haha
Zero2Cool (15-May) : True, that was awesome. The whole F thing was great actually.
dfosterf (15-May) : I did like the Mark Murphy part, sorta
Zero2Cool (15-May) : Some comments on it saying it was great, amazing... I came away thinking... awkward.
dfosterf (15-May) : Packers schedule release video is "interesting" I guess.
Zero2Cool (15-May) : SOOO glad that tool still works. Saves from manually entering each game
Zero2Cool (15-May) : NFL Pick'em import was done last night.
Mucky Tundra (15-May) : Atlanta with 5 primetime games lol
Zero2Cool (15-May) : Week Five BYE?? NFL is hell.
wpr (14-May) : Vikings schedule leaked. Week 12 in GB. Week 18 in MN.
wpr (14-May) : CBS has GB @ NYG Week 11 Nov 16 and they will face MN in week 18 but don't say where. I think away
Zero2Cool (14-May) : W15: Packers at Broncos
Zero2Cool (14-May) : Ben Sirmans on MarShawn Lloyd: “Everything’s full go for him.”
Zero2Cool (14-May) : Luke Butkus says training camp will allow plenty of time to implement new center Elgton Jenkins
Zero2Cool (14-May) : wk 2 commanders at packers
Zero2Cool (14-May) : Ugh. Packers thanksgiving detroit ...boring
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2025 Packers Schedule
Sunday, Sep 7 @ 3:25 PM
LIONS
Thursday, Sep 11 @ 7:15 PM
COMMANDERS
Sunday, Sep 21 @ 12:00 PM
Browns
Sunday, Sep 28 @ 7:20 PM
Cowboys
Sunday, Oct 12 @ 3:25 PM
BENGALS
Sunday, Oct 19 @ 3:25 PM
Cardinals
Sunday, Oct 26 @ 7:20 PM
Steelers
Sunday, Nov 2 @ 12:00 PM
PANTHERS
Monday, Nov 10 @ 7:15 PM
EAGLES
Sunday, Nov 16 @ 12:00 PM
Giants
Sunday, Nov 23 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Thursday, Nov 27 @ 12:00 PM
Lions
Sunday, Dec 7 @ 12:00 PM
BEARS
Sunday, Dec 14 @ 3:25 PM
Broncos
Friday, Dec 19 @ 11:00 PM
Bears
Friday, Dec 26 @ 11:00 PM
RAVENS
Saturday, Jan 3 @ 11:00 PM
Vikings
Recent Topics
9h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

27-May / Random Babble / Martha Careful

24-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

24-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

23-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / greengold

23-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / earthquake

22-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

22-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / bboystyle

21-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / greengold

21-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / earthquake

20-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

19-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

19-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

16-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / dfosterf

15-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / greengold

Headlines
Copyright © 2006 - 2025 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.